best birds

[walterbmasson]

 

 

BLUE TOONER that is another thing that should be adhered t

 

o as the birds are basketed with us at 10 am thats 3 days in basket think what you like what would the birds prefer to stay in baskets another night or to be kept cramped in a basket and its going to be a fair race for benifit of birds

[BLACK W F]

tam why dont you stick your heed where the sun dont shine  have a nce day now  lol

[Guest stb-]

tam why dont you stick your heed where the sun dont shine  have a nce day now  lol

 

off topic,

 

start a new thread on that one Radiation suit required :P

[Delboy]

The best chance  the north and west section guys have got to win national is if it a midday lib.

[tiger]

The best chance  the north and west section guys have got to win national is if it a midday lib.

 

may i ask why you think that ?

[robbiedoo.]

delboy a midday lib would be great for us boys up here . i know there has been some cracking fanceirs names mentioned but do they fly the 6 to 700 mile like the thread asked no . everybody knows a 600 mile doo is harder to come by than the 500 mile doo . so wheres the best 6 to 700 mile doos they are up here in the north section were the only ones to fly it different doos altogether and jim donaldson,s loft has the best of them. JMO

[walterbmasson]

 

 

KING BILLY NO LET THEM UP AT MID DAY THEN IT BECOMES A FAIR RACE CHANCE OF GIVING ALL BIRDS SAME TIME ON WING AND HOURS OF DARKNESS THE SAME KING BILLY DO YOU THINK THATS UNFAIR AFTER ALL IT IS OPEN FOR THE [WHOLE OF  OUR FANCIERS ]  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

[Guest KING BILLY]

 

KING BILLY NO LET THEM UP AT MID DAY THEN IT BECOMES A FAIR RACE CHANCE OF GIVING ALL BIRDS SAME TIME ON WING AND HOURS OF DARKNESS THE SAME KING BILLY DO YOU THINK THATS UNFAIR AFTER ALL IT IS OPEN FOR THE [WHOLE OF  OUR FANCIERS ]  8) 8) 8) 8) 8)

am with you on this one mid day for me ;)

 

 

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

STB THIS POST IS ABOUT THE BEST BIRDS EVEN IF ITS A NORTH WIND A BIRD HAS GOT TO BE GIVEN THE SAME CHANCE TO GET AS FAR ON THE DAY AS THE REST I CANT REMEBER WHEN BIRDS WERE LIBRATED AT 5 AM IN THE SNFC [ WHY]

 

Walter are there any organisations that Lib at 05.00 i believe that to be no with the earliest lib time this year of any organisation to my knowledge being 05.30??, if i could liberate them at 04.00 i would and it would make a hell of a difference to the volume of pigeons timed in on the shift to the west of Scotland and all areas for that matter.

 

The SNFC this year had a multitude of different liberation times this down to mainly the weather which we have no influence on.

 

cheers

Gareth

 

 

 

[Blue Tooner]

The best chance  the north and west section guys have got to win national is if it a midday lib.

 

All birds would be fresher the next morning to carry on their way home and therefore better returns surely for all concerned.

Let's face it, the chances of getting perfect weather to enable pigeons to fly the whole day are very rare, so there are more often than not going to be birds that are shut out. JMO

 

 

[Guest JonesyBhoy]

Gareth.. just curious.. is 5.30 the earliest your allowed to lib..?? Is there any rules regarding lib times..??

 

Cheers

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

Gareth.. just curious.. is 5.30 the earliest your allowed to lib..?? Is there any rules regarding lib times..??

 

Cheers

 

No rules Jonesy regarding lib time other than Weather, sun rise, and birds getting enough time to get a drink are the only thing that determines the lib.

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

gareth rankin surely if you think there would be alot more birds timed with at 4 am why not let them go at 5am after all it is open for the whle nation and should be catered for everyone which is not happening all i know theres times that these birds should be in the air long before they are and if you are admitting there could be loads more birds timed in if they were let up early into the west sec [ WHY WHY WHY ARE YOU STOPPING THEM I KNOW EVERY FANCIER I KNOW WANTS TO TIME ON THE DAY WEATHER PERMITTING FROM 600+MILES ] YOU MENTION OTHER ORGANISATIONS I DIFFER TO AGREE THAT BIRDS HAVENT BEEN RELEASED AT 5AM BUT I WILL LET YOU know  but i am not a member of any other national but SNFC

[Guest bigda]

what about having lights in the transporter for a early drink, and if not away for 5 then 1pm  for every one,  thats the fairest and you all know it is  ,lib  so why act all shy ;D ;D ;D

[naedoos]

 

gareth rankin surely if you think there would be alot more birds timed with at 4 am why not let them go at 5am after all it is open for the whle nation and should be catered for everyone which is not happening all i know theres times that these birds should be in the air long before they are and if you are admitting there could be loads more birds timed in if they were let up early into the west sec [ WHY WHY WHY ARE YOU STOPPING THEM I KNOW EVERY FANCIER I KNOW WANTS TO TIME ON THE DAY WEATHER PERMITTING FROM 600+MILES ] YOU MENTION OTHER ORGANISATIONS I DIFFER TO AGREE THAT BIRDS HAVENT BEEN RELEASED AT 5AM BUT I WILL LET YOU know  but i am not a member of any other national but SNFC

 

Why do you feel Gareth is stopping them when he has already stated if he could liberate the birds at 4am then he would? After all the birds welfare must be a priority!! You also continue to state that it should be fair for everyone but if it isn't then how come this years longest race was won in the N.E. :-/

 

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

BIGDA ITS MIND BOGGLING YOU CANT LET FRESH BIRDS GO AT 5AM  BUT THEY HAVE TO GET UP AND FLY AT 4.30 THE SECOND DAY AFTER FLYING 500+MILES BUT GOING BY GARETH THIS IS OK I AM AFRAID HUNDREDS DONT AGREE AND EVERYBOADY KNOWS ITS BROAD DAYLIGHT IN FRANCE AT 4 AM GIVING THE BIRDS PLENTY OF TIME FOR DRINK IS THERE EVER BEEN A DEBATE IF WEATHER IS GOOD TO GIVE THE WHOLE CONVOY A CHANCE TO MAKE IT ON THE DAY AT 600MILES

[Guest BRYANBROCK]

Jims  performances have been out of this world for years  if you think there are any number of good fanciers who could do what he has

i am sure they would easly get a hoose in peterhead  and can try  no del  they move from up here t o where its easyer  to win  and there are plenty more good guys up this kneck of the woods   but jims just in a league of his own  and thats proven fact

 

FOR ONCE ALAN I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU  (happy)(happy)(happy)(happy)

[Guest Gareth Rankin]

 

BIGDA ITS MIND BOGGLING YOU CANT LET FRESH BIRDS GO AT 5AM  BUT THEY HAVE TO GET UP AND FLY AT 4.30 THE SECOND DAY AFTER FLYING 500+MILES BUT GOING BY GARETH THIS IS OK I AM AFRAID HUNDREDS DONT AGREE AND EVERYBOADY KNOWS ITS BROAD DAYLIGHT IN FRANCE AT 4 AM GIVING THE BIRDS PLENTY OF TIME FOR DRINK IS THERE EVER BEEN A DEBATE IF WEATHER IS GOOD TO GIVE THE WHOLE CONVOY A CHANCE TO MAKE IT ON THE DAY AT 600MILES

 

Walter everyone wants a early lib but you cannot sacrifice the pigeons welfare.

 

Please see my first post on the subject.

 

ps

Do you want the job as the convoyer for 2010 that way you will make sure these pigeons are ready for a 05.00 am which every other convoyer seams to struggle with,

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

NAEDOOS YOU HAVE JUST HIT IT ON THE NAIL THEY WERE UP WITH UP NORTH COMBINE PERFECT DAY BUT WEVE ANOTHER 40 MILES AFTER ABERDEEN DAVIES BIRD WAS ON THE BALL BINGO ITS IN THE CLOCK AND THATS WHAT IT SHOULD BE IF THE DAY IS RIGHT GET UP IN TIME TO GET HOME ON THE DAY WHY STOP THEM DOING I T  AND REMEMBER IF CONDITIONS ARE RIGHT WHY HOLD THEM BAC TO HIT WIRES ETC IN DARK AS

  A LOT MEETS THERE WAterloo when flying in dark

[walterbmasson]

 

sorry gareth if you want some one to have the guts to give all birds a chance just put my name forward i will certainly oblige and re your post i went onto a member of up north combine and he said the birds have been up as early as 4.30 am a good lot at 4.45am if you want his phone number if you dont believe me just let me know

[Guest stb-]

sorry gareth if you want some one to have the guts to give all birds a chance just put my name forward i will certainly oblige and re your post i went onto a member of up north combine and he said the birds have been up as early as 4.30 am a good lot at 4.45am if you want his phone number if you dont believe me just let me know

 

go onto UNC.com  they have there lib times and races on there web site :)

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

frank  you stated earlier that good fanciers will win any where  and i do agree with you there  but jim is in a class of his own for consistency  look at his performances they speak for them selves   regards albears comments  there are many top distance men in the north jim is just a notch above  and i mean top men who if mooved would no doubt win a national  

 

alan i agree jim has and will continue to be prolific fancier  but the point i was trying to make is now that our nat clubs keep bringing the race distances down even the north boys are only getting 2 600+ ml races central scotland has none so the south boys have no chance and yes i do think they want them the only fanciers that have the chance to do that are the north of england fanciers in the nfc/bicc. regarding the early lib like gareth i would lib at 4am but you have to remember the work/time involved in clearing the route so its not as easy as it might look lets face it we would all have a right go at the poor controller if he lib,d at 4am without doing his home work

[walterbmasson]

 

frank doo man they should definately be watered for 4 to 30am ready to go at 4.45am to 5 am weather permitting hrs of darkness 4.30 am to 11pm

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest frank dooman]

walter i was talking about line of flight weather forcasts checking the channel then all the phone call from france to north of england they all take time

[pigeonworld]

frank doo man they should definately be watered for 4 to 30am ready to go at 4.45am to 5 am weather permitting hrs of darkness 4.30 am to 11pm this is all of topic  start a new thread