kingbilly2 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 if say you breed 100 young birds how many doo you think would be left at 3 year old if they flow the alll young bird program and flew out to 350mls as yearlins and got sent acros the chanel at 2year old at 459mls ;) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lenwadebob Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 10 if you are lucky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 12, After the young bird programme luck if there 30 left,JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony C Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 :-/ x+y+z=2,x+y+2*z=9,x+7*y-z=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ritchie1 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK W F Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 if say you breed 100 young birds how many doo you think would be left at 3 year old if they flow the alll young bird program and flew out to 350mls as yearlins and got sent acros the chanel at 2year old at 459mls ;) ;) hard to say Tam as some years are better y/bs than other years but i would say flying out as y/bs full prog 40 left yearlings to the coast 450mls 23 2 y/olds maybe a 15 2 y/olds 10if lucky thats taken into account culling end of each season JMO BUT WOULD HOPE MORE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ROCKYandRAMBO Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 depends how you treated them and how your selection is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbilly2 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 depends how you treated them and how your selection is treat them all the same and your only selection is the baskite and race them right out ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Owen Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 I would expect to loose and dump youngsters down to about 50% of what I start with. After that I expect to loose about 10%/20% per year. But when you are dealing with 100, you would most likely loose a lot more because they would be subject to overcrowding and the stresses associated with it. But it would not be that I would be concerned about. I would be worried that the birds would not perform well enough. I have 16 cocks to race and they are a very good team. So this year's young cocks are going to have to be very good for them to be selected for the team. And that is how I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Flying into the Prevailing West Winds into our Area by the time they are 3 you will be lucky to be left with 5 that are any use unless you use the same bottle as Tam the Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbilly2 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Flying into the Prevailing West Winds into our Area by the time they are 3 you will be lucky to be left with 5 that are any use unless you use the same bottle as Tam the Great. andy your bang on the money 10 out of 10 ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anto Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 ide say 3 or 4 thats any good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 ide say 3 or 4 thats any good Anto into your Area which is the Hardest Route in the World you would be doing well to get 3 and thats when the 98% sh**- rule kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbilly2 Posted February 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Anto into your Area which is the Hardest Route in the World you would be doing well to get 3 and thats when the 98% sh**- rule kicks in. yes and wee think whe have it hard in the west of scotland the bigest problem is the ones that hold on to them till thare 3 year old to try them then boom nothing :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiedoo. Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 yes and wee think whe have it hard in the west of scotland the bigest problem is the ones that hold on to them till thare 3 year old to try them then boom nothing :o your right tam you do think you have it hard when the truth is nobody has it easy . i have 1 5 year old 2 4 year old 6 3 year olds . i normaly breed about 50 youngsters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 your right tam you do think you have it hard when the truth is nobody has it easy . i have 1 5 year old 2 4 year old 6 3 year olds . i normaly breed about 50 youngsters Robbie yer doing well at that flying into your area. Good Luck 2010 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonscout Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 There is no guarantee how many birds you will get back from a race as all it takes is one bad liberation. I have been lucky this last 8 years but 10 years ago I had 33 young birds that won every single young bird race. They came out again as yearlings and won the first 4 old bird races and on the 5 race they hit thick fog on the channel I lost 17 from 23 sent and I was one of the lucky ones. How many of them 17 lost would have went on to be good 2 and 3 year olds I will never know because of that one bad liberation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anto Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Anto into your Area which is the Hardest Route in the World you would be doing well to get 3 and thats when the 98% sh**- rule kicks in. your very much right bigda some of the best birds ive ever clocked out of france were yearlings that were never over the water as young birds theres very few that home again after doing it once your very right about the sh** fanciers sending birds that couldent fly over the kitchen sink you need birds bread for the job to much dirt been sent and we all pay the prise for them they cant clock these birds from a land race so they think the bird will fly 3 chanels to be clocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 There is no guarantee how many birds you will get back from a race as all it takes is one bad liberation. I have been lucky this last 8 years but 10 years ago I had 33 young birds that won every single young bird race. They came out again as yearlings and won the first 4 old bird races and on the 5 race they hit thick fog on the channel I lost 17 from 23 sent and I was one of the lucky ones. How many of them 17 lost would have went on to be good 2 and 3 year olds I will never know because of that one bad liberation. Let us know how you got on with the 5 that got through and how they were bred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 hard to say 10 if your lucky depends on your previous seasons losses and results Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budgie Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 hard to say 10 if your lucky depends on your previous seasons losses and results Never forget the 98% RULE and dont make excuses for the Shi-e which we all have in abundance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank-123 Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Quoted from budgie Anto into your Area which is the Hardest Route in the World you would be doing well to get 3 and thats when the 98% sh**- rule kicks in. your very much right bigda some of the best birds ive ever clocked out of france were yearlings that were never over the water as young birds theres very few that home again after doing it once your very right about the sh** fanciers sending birds that couldent fly over the kitchen sink you need birds bread for the job to much dirt been sent and we all pay the prise for them they cant clock these birds from a land race so they think the bird will fly 3 chanels to be clocked getting bigda and budgie mixed up there anto suppose its an easy mistake to make ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jargre- Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 10 if you are luckyVery lucky Id say Bob, mob flyer near me sent a ton of birds last year lost 89% of them in first race. Good question though as I asked the guy who is an awesome flyer wasn't he bothered and he just shrugged. I cry if one is a day late. :'( :'( ??) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anto Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Quoted from budgie Anto into your Area which is the Hardest Route in the World you would be doing well to get 3 and thats when the 98% sh**- rule kicks in. your very much right bigda some of the best birds ive ever clocked out of france were yearlings that were never over the water as young birds theres very few that home again after doing it once your very right about the sh** fanciers sending birds that couldent fly over the kitchen sink you need birds bread for the job to much dirt been sent and we all pay the prise for them they cant clock these birds from a land race so they think the bird will fly 3 chanels to be clocked getting bigda and budgie mixed up there anto suppose its an easy mistake to make ;D ;D HANG OVER MATE SORRY LADS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonscout Posted February 13, 2010 Report Share Posted February 13, 2010 Let us know how you got on with the 5 that got through and how they were bred. They where same way bred as the brothers and sisters that got lost (Hartogs). To tell the truth I think the 5 that made it went up the land into scotland before crossing and by going that way they where always going to be late. A lot of the fanciers birds where reported washed up on the beach at Wexford. 4 of the ones that got lost had been at the same race as young birds and all 4 home in 15 mins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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