Roland Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Protecting Our Birds. Of course any and all birds eaten alive will benefit and start to be protected and saved. Need now over the next two weeks to put into place and kick the ball to start playing .... Or for those that want excuses not to kick the ball into touch! Let it be I did fora while for some to digest and to see how easy it is to forget, or not want to be involved. Fine, don't be.... BUT at least support our pigeons and dip hands in pockets. Yes bid on Y/B's sales / Auctions for example. From little acorns mighty oak Trees grow, not over night granted, but that first step of a thousand miles needs taking. Numpty feels that it is a step too far.... But is willing to help. Likewise are YOU! No good hiding your head in your hands and whinging, your / our birds Songbirds and pigeons alike are being eaten alive! Like I say, the committee and how and why the funds are used will main stay a secret, so the likes of Nuptials questions will have to be ignored. Likewise, I afraid, many others. THE RSPB are a field in front, so stealth is needed, is to be used for any and every advantage utilised. I'm no fool, a mouthy git yes. One who stands up too often maybe to be counted? But if I believe, feel a cause is worth, needed to be supported then I'm there. I don't suffer fool and 'Tavern Talk' gladly either. Yes respect others rights to having a view... But you can rest assured that those on the committee, the think Tank and to all and every best intention very honest and reliable fanciers. Yes even probably the very names you would have put forward... Indeed any and every one is welcomed too, and asked to put forward their name, or names that they feel they can trust and know that they will do what is best and right in the end. Mistakes can be made.... but as the structure and aims are so basic and straight forward, mistakes should be hard to come by. Your sport needs YOU! And that is Now! I was more than quite surprised when a Fancier - No not Numpty, that is only to be expected of him lol - said he Might support the P.O.B but was all for supporting other charities. Yes his / hers pro- orgrative, and one we all have to respect. The thinking and reasoning makes a sardonic smile eh!. If that name is not appropriate, or liked, or any one has and wants to suggest a different one, please put it forward. But doesn't it just show our channelled and unrealistic mentality when we much rather give to unknown and unheard of - by many every time - donations, raise money, give away for these causes, yet just might support a cause that is intended to reduce them very birds sold etc. being eaten alive :-/ :-/ :-/ Mind boggles :o
john@formula 1 lofts Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 If any help with donation's of birds for auction etc are required i am more then willing to donate. John
superstar Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Well Roland I would be more than willing to donate a pair of breeders to the cause should it be set up right and have a real voice in the right places. Couldn't agree more that the wild bird population, let alone pigeon racing, is under great and real threat. I for one only have to look out the window to see that, there used to be loads of house sparrows living under the roofs around here, now sadly there are none! Nest sites are still there, there's just no birds to use them! Used to listen to the song thrushes and even a mistle thrush singing from their favorite perches but sadly none of them left either. Now to the pigeons, I personally have never lost many birds but this year has been exceptional compared to any other I have had, last year never lost a single old bird, this year lost 8 of the 16 we race and of the 8 that are missing they, all baring one, fell one at a time from training tosses of between 10 and 30 miles, birds that were up to 4yr old that have come from those points many, many times, and way beyond, in fog and alsorts, let alone the good weather that all these have been lost in! Also one came slashed down the side and wing, obviously by a hawk. I wish you or whoever the very best of luck with this project but my own personal feeling is it will get nowhere, but maybe for once we might land up with a real voice that gets listened too? Thats all we can hope for, because if something isn't done the wild bird population and pigeon racing are just about doomed. GOOD LUCK we all need it!
BLACK W F Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 good posts from Roland and Superstar and what they both say is true if it gets off the ground i will donate
pigeonpete Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Roland i posted this up on charity birds for sale before you did this post mate. No problems Roland, let me know when you have an account set up for the fund, and i will contribute a tenner! I know its not much but if we all did it then it would work without a doubt. :-)
REDROCKET Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 looks like the balls rolling now mate give your details and my cheque will be in the post and the very best of luck to you.
Shortcut Lofts Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 Well done Roland. I will also support this very worthy cause. Let me know the details. SL
Roland Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Posted June 15, 2009 Thank you all for your support and kind offers. I’m hoping that it will be taken up soon, the sooner the better obviously.... May also, not on open public forums though, like to bounce a few views or such with any of you from time to time. RSPB are everywhere. Hence, please leave your pigeon club’s sec number to insure one is genuine that could be forwarded to me. Also I still need a couple more trustees that can veto cheques etc. Realistically three, not too friendly shall we say, for the very reason to stop any temptations regards misappropriating funds... Also any and all input for a Think Tank would be greatly received. Yes we will need a PR Firm ASAP as a mouthpiece, and that will cost, have no doubt. Yet if every member of the RPRA, SHU, Welsh whatever gave just a single little quiddy then that would be put into place and running for two years. Yes one can get cheaper ones…. Pigeon basics I feel donated and gave away this last season enough too... One can’t help but think that ‘Charity begins at Home’ eh! That's - at present 158 read this post.... 7 offers of help. Feel though that a lot more will climb aboard this wagon once wheels are in motion and rolling.
REDROCKET Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 you're 7 offers got it rolling we just need more so it can pick up a bit of pace come on guys this guy's putting in a big effort here if it fails it''ll cost you a couple of quid
Guest numpty01 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 roland if you contact the rpra and instruct mr bills that it was agreed with myself that the rpra would assit in donation and the bhw would assit in publiciseing free the quest you should be able to continue were i left off and as to donations i have here somewere a list of members who were prepared to donate but as i stated it died a death and that was when it was under way with tresuer apointed
gooner Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 i will support it and i think once it is definatly in place then alot more people will follow
Roland Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Posted June 15, 2009 roland if you contact the rpra and instruct mr bills that it was agreed with myself that the rpra would assit in donation and the bhw would assit in publiciseing free the quest you should be able to continue were i left off and as to donations i have here somewere a list of members who were prepared to donate but as i stated it died a death and that was when it was under way with tresuer apointed Numpty I - like most - would much prefer you to be aboard. Your' input, and work that I know you will put in can only be of benefit. So welcome aboard, for I know, like most that you will be 100% ( Besides I’d much rather you be inside the tent spitting out, than outside spitting in lol) Once the committee is sworn in, certain things agree to, and a sensible mandate drawn up we can start jogging along. Once members, and others, start to see some plan, objectives are in place, the more shoulders will undoubtedly be at the wheel. Like I'm all for Albear to draft letters, emails as I know he has the right and sound balance. Les, well a straight talker straight from the hip.... One that certainly knows the score, White**** for his run in's with the RSPB alone is wealth of knowledge needed to set us against making the same mistakes again. RPRA.... Well in reality, I believe that they should levy every member a little £1... or too and put a think Tank, and professional mouth piece into place, one that hasn't a bias as we may well have, but a balanced view acceptable and adherent to the public when needs and such cases arise. But then I wanted Bo Derek to read me bedside stories –she use to too, well till I woke up that is, and likewise the RPRA…. Unless, of course, enough members bombarded them with propositions for a mandate in regards our plight of us feeding the B.O.P. money making pets Indeed forcing them to bombarded our clubs to make Our Feds make the Regions to vote it in! There is so much that we can do … and in reality little we can’t, if we so desire. Like the saying when the mother ship is in trouble afloat…. ‘Little children helps mother’. Further more in this case Help our selves. Have already today had offers by three great fanciers to put birds up for auction.
Robbie7836 Posted June 15, 2009 Report Posted June 15, 2009 you have my support 100%. when i 1st started racing pigeons i used to enjoy basket training now my heart is in my mouth everytime i release. and how much fanciers watch on in terror as a bird which has been doin well and or won decent prizes is plucked from the sky infront of our eyes. this prob not going away and rolands right strengh in numbers its time to stop bitching and do something about it!
Roland Posted June 15, 2009 Author Report Posted June 15, 2009 you have my support 100%. when i 1st started racing pigeons i used to enjoy basket training now my heart is in my mouth everytime i release. and how much fanciers watch on in terror as a bird which has been doin well and or won decent prizes is plucked from the sky infront of our eyes. this prob not going away and rolands right strengh in numbers its time to stop bitching and do something about it! Thanks, welcome aboard. If any one wants to be on board of the 'top Table' please let me know. Yes you will have to be vetted to prove your not an RSPB infiltrater - or Traitor rythmes nice that eh for we know that whilst at present we are a joke, yes a sad one grant and of little substance or value, if and when the ball starts rolling believe you believe me that will sit up and take note!
Roland Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Posted June 16, 2009 215 viewers.... some obviously via the same members etc. But again I feel that this is of interest to many, and close to some hearts. The worst scenario is to let the interest dwindle, to put out of mind. Hence I, and hopefully others will when ever possible, and pliable, relive this thread to keep it in the members eye so to speal. DON'T let it be just another thread to wax and wane. So I for one will put up every tib - bit seperately when able Sorry, But then thoses that are interested, and care about our Phlight won't mind. Others wwho don't care, not interested won't bother to look in eh! :-/
jimmy_bulger Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 you have my support 100% and i think the members on here should all get behind you, then when members of other sites see this is not just wind and p*ss they also will probly come on board.
Guest Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 And I have already made offer Roland when I sell stock pigeons for charities.
Roland Posted June 16, 2009 Author Report Posted June 16, 2009 Yes thanks to bove above. I have now 7 offers of birds. I also am very careful, and will always remain as such in giving any 'Names' of thoses that wish to help. Of course these auction will be a tremedous help and of value. Firstly of course because of the much needed funds. A close second... umm :-/ perhaps joint first is that A. It will as Jimmy says show were are serious, and B. Others may well join in. I know one or two names more I wish to approach in regards getting on board. Now with the modern means of 'Contacts' a comittee can, and must be formed from any where. It does not mean that we have to meet and discuss in an arranged 'Pub' or whatever. But that we can trust and rely on each other. Of course 'Names' must be, and will be vetted. That is of no importance to genuine and honest folks wishing to help. But is needed big time to keep unwanted and disruptive 'Persons' out! simple that, but again it will give us peace of mind and freedom of thought.
superstar Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 Come on you lot out there! This is in all our interests as the sport is suffering from this hawk problem. Lets be honest if WE the fanciers dont get and shout for help who the hell will????
swilcox Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 Roland im in, and if you require an Auctioneer my serveice are yours, its time to Save Our Sport. Stuart
swilcox Posted June 16, 2009 Report Posted June 16, 2009 No problem Roland, we all have to do our bit. Stuart
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