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the birds of prey ... defo id agree ... its unbeliable isnt it what they do ... you try keep the weight down and give birds a bath and fly and all this happens... sorry to hear the bad news chris... it really is a nghtmare mate...mikey,,,

Guest slugmonkey
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I found leg from a National Ace 6610 in my yard yesterday sure it was B O P

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I have lost ten pigeons off my loft since christmas.one was my fed topper too.can only think its b.o.p. >:(

 

why let them out during winter ? i keep mine in from end of racing till i've finished breeding , seems your just a free food outlet to passing bops , at least if locked up your starving the local bops and they'll look elsewheres for food :)

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why let them out during winter ? i keep mine in from end of racing till i've finished breeding , seems your just a free food outlet to passing bops , at least if locked up your starving the local bops and they'll look elsewheres for food :)

 

what,you get bops all year round that need feeding.

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what,you get bops all year round that need feeding.

 

yes bops are about all year round the racing season is 6 months so if locked up best part of it thats 50% less birds losted , if bops kill and are successfull they'll keep returning as long as the food source is there if locked up no food source then they'll move on

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i chris lost an good white 06 stock hen i managed to break van der wegen she was bred by armstrong and wheatley last time i seen here she was trying to get away from an pergrine was gutted same day had an chequer cock come back ripped to bits wings gone tail gone hole in back holes in side of chest there getting beyond the joke mate.

 

all the best.

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There is a BOP nest not far from me, wan mile, am friendley with some owe the guys that work there, they are saying that the BOPS are talking out seagulls etc, so they wont starve, no matter hom long we keep the doos in,  :)

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There is a BOP nest not far from me, wan mile, am friendley with some owe the guys that work there, they are saying that the BOPS are talking out seagulls etc, so they wont starve, no matter hom long we keep the doos in,  :)

 

nope they dont starve Cem, they will just get somthing else ;)

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nope they dont starve Cem, they will just get somthing else ;)

 

thats true rab but at the same time no need to make things easy for them by letting pigeons out and just maybe then joe public will take some notice of them taking and eating other birds in there gardens  ;)

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instead of sitting at a computer stand out in yer garden or yard , you cant give birds an open loft these days and expect not to lose birds to sparrow hawks,  it aint the hawks thats to blame ,they are only doing wot they they wos made to do . i have never lost a bird to them for more than 5 yearsand my birds are out nearly every day of the year

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instead of sitting at a computer stand out in yer garden or yard , you cant give birds an open loft these days and expect not to lose birds to sparrow hawks,  it aint the hawks thats to blame ,they are only doing wot they they wos made to do . i have never lost a bird to them for more than 5 yearsand my birds are out nearly every day of the year

 

Glad you have not had a bird taken, I kept mine in for 6 weeks, and had 1 taken within 10 mins of them being out. you must just not have many round you, I am plagued by them. They sit on the telegraph pole most days waiting for me!!! My loft is out in the sticks a bit.

 

 

Guest ROCKYandRAMBO
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instead of sitting at a computer stand out in yer garden or yard , you cant give birds an open loft these days and expect not to lose birds to sparrow hawks,  it aint the hawks thats to blame ,they are only doing wot they they wos made to do . i have never lost a bird to them for more than 5 yearsand my birds are out nearly every day of the year

 

i would say you have been lucky then , as im allways out side when my birds are out one day i was in with my young birds feeding them when i herd my old birds crash off went and looked and it looked like there was a cock driving his hen but it wasnt it was the hawk trying to catch one , then last year i had my cocks out flying they landed and a hawk dived and pinned the pigeon to the floor right in fron of me he was ok but the rest took off and i couldnt get them down they was still flying in darkness and i lost two that night as they must of hit wires ect when flying , but i had one bad week last year when it was after my birds all day clinging to the love birds avairy , budgie avairy , pigeon avairy , pinned one of my white fantails ect but with the help of bilco i sorted my problem and ive not seen it since but we are getting to the time when the hen starts feeding her self before she sits so will see what happens this year ,

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I KNOW A [ SLIMEY WEE GUY ] WHO HELPS OUT FOLENTARLY AT THE FALL'S OF CLYDE WHERE THE PEREGRINES ARE NESTING, HE WAS SAYING THERE EVEN TAKING THERE OWN KIND TO FEED THERE YOUNG [ KESTRELS ]. I THINK WHEN THERE HUNGRY ANYTHING GOES. :-/

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instead of sitting at a computer stand out in yer garden or yard , you cant give birds an open loft these days and expect not to lose birds to sparrow hawks,  it aint the hawks thats to blame ,they are only doing wot they they wos made to do . i have never lost a bird to them for more than 5 yearsand my birds are out nearly every day of the year

 

Soapy they take them whether your outside or not just pull them down into the woods

 

there usually dead by the time you get in and find them in the undergrowth.

 

They will attack them right in front of you aswell ,no fear .

Might try a picture of you on front of loft as that seems to be the thing to scare thewm away  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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When you look at the posts on here you can see the big weakness in the Sparrow Hawk which is normally the one that takes birds near your loft. He/she does not like to give up on a kill and it is very attracted to birds in an aviary.

I have an aviary for my youngsters so that they have plenty of fresh air and can bath in peace. So obviously the Sparrow Hawk becomes available for you to see what is going on. They will cling to the wire of the aviary.

Goshawks are only normally a problem if your birds are near woodland. And again very easy to see and counteract. Peregrines are a whole differant ball game. I have not got the faintest idea how to deal with them. The best I have come up with so far is to stick to widowhood cocks. The cocks are usually fit enough to out fly him providing that you can get them out in the Spring to get fit. I have said all I can so there are things you can do if you sit down and workit out.

Guest joe muzz
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   i had 60 birds to fly this year till the Hawk got in among them they disappeared and 10

   came back 4 days later and that was 8 weeks ago

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   i had 60 birds to fly this year till the Hawk got in among them they disappeared and 10

   came back 4 days later and that was 8 weeks ago

 

Bleedin heck Joe thats grim!

 

Al.

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