how do you motivate your widowhoods

[joe61]

can anyone tell me what days they motivate their birds and why.

[jimmy white]

as  no  one seems to be answering  ,, ill have a try

in my opinion ,,motivation is used on many occasions ,especially with novices , thinking this is the be all and end all,, in my opinion its not,,

a fit , healthy, well honed pigeon , cannot help flying faster than an unfit bird being motivated by some means or other  , so in my book, the fit , healthy , well honed pigeon is the most important matter ,, then , if the fanciers see fit , they can motivate if they want,many different pigeons  can  be motivated in many different ways , what might suit one pigeon, may not suit another,, their all individuals,, a case of knowing your pigeons,, i say this as i have won , in the past, a 505 race with a simple celibate cock , racing to the loft, only  ,  

[joe61]

jimmy, i can see your a bold and honest fella, i make you spot on with your reply, nobody else though seems to want to come forward with their imput.

 

  thanks for yours mate

[Guest Paulo]

For my best race this year I had a hen on chipping eggs which I annoyed on basketing day by locking her and her cock out of the nest box and putting a strange cock in her box. She went mental trying to get back into the box and then basketed her and away to the club.

 

She came like a rocket the next day. She's a very aggressive hen so I knew that anything interfering with her home would send her over the edge.

 

I think Jimmys right in that the birds need to be first healthy, then fit and finally the feeding and moviation complete the cycle. You also must have top class pigeons.

 

The moviation makes the difference if all the other factors including the birds a good pigeon are there then the moviation is the final piece that gives you an edge on race day.

 

Moviation is all about knowing your pigeons and what they race to best. Some hens like 10 day old eggs some hens like chipping etc. Some cocks will fly their socks off on widowhood some prefer natural.

 

Thats why I like only having a few birds as you can get to know ya team

[stevebelbin]

When you pair your widowhoods up, have a spare cock that can be left loose in the loft whilst the others are treading their hens. For the days when the cocks are locked in the box with their hens keep this cock loose in the loft to cause a bit of jealousy towards him. Then keep him away from the loft until the time when the cocks are seperated. On the day of basketing let the cocks see their hens as normal and basket them, leaving the basket in the loft so the cocks can see the hens in their boxes. Then release the spare cock into the loft and let the others see him chasing their hens etc. Then off to the club with a big smile on your face ;-) ;-)! Only do on a day when you can guarantee that they wont be held over, or you will lose a few!!!!

[phillips]

like i said in a different post i dont use the hens at the start of the season i motivate by using the bowls and straw i also put up a v perch in each section which faces the cocks boxes sooner or later 1 of the cocks will take to the perch through out the day i find this super for motivating the cocks as they come more protective over their boxes thinking the cock on the v perch is going to try and take another cocks box

jason

[just ask me]

jimmy is right birds have to be fit and healthy and of good quailty then motivation can come into play i feel u have to have birds spot on for motivation to really work but do rember anyone reading this i know there a lot here that are newstarters leave your yearlings alone they have to learn the widdowhood system first before i can introduce this all of the above have seen pll loseing half there team in first few races trying to motivate them rember if the race is short and wind behind them they can be 100 mile past your loft before they know where they are and then have to turn around and face into wind and with the light feeds that sprint fanicers give there birds they might not have it in them that why i allways like a slight head wind for the first few races

[Tony C]

In the main the better condition they come into the more self motivated they become.

[Roland]

as  no  one seems to be answering  ,, ill have a try

in my opinion ,,motivation is used on many occasions ,especially with novices , thinking this is the be all and end all,, in my opinion its not,,

a fit , healthy, well honed pigeon , cannot help flying faster than an unfit bird being motivated by some means or other  , so in my book, the fit , healthy , well honed pigeon is the most important matter ,, then , if the fanciers see fit , they can motivate if they want,many different pigeons  can  be motivated in many different ways , what might suit one pigeon, may not suit another,, their all individuals,, a case of knowing your pigeons,, i say this as i have won , in the past, a 505 race with a simple celibate cock , racing to the loft, only  ,  

 

Great post.

If a pigeon doesn't feel save, and happy, content in the loft.... then there is very little motivation that could work.

Indeed I believe that Condition is  actaully made up of several parts, Fitness, contentment, love of  loft etc. All need the other to be sucess.

Again, any movtivation is mostly a ploy of jealousy.

Now when the 6 - 7 diffenrt aspects fall together, then you have healthy, fit birds in condition and ready to race.

If not winning them.... well 99% it means thay aren't good enough.

 

 

[Guest spin cycle]

as  no  one seems to be answering  ,, ill have a try

in my opinion ,,motivation is used on many occasions ,especially with novices , thinking this is the be all and end all,, in my opinion its not,,

a fit , healthy, well honed pigeon , cannot help flying faster than an unfit bird being motivated by some means or other  , so in my book, the fit , healthy , well honed pigeon is the most important matter ,, then , if the fanciers see fit , they can motivate if they want,many different pigeons  can  be motivated in many different ways , what might suit one pigeon, may not suit another,, their all individuals,, a case of knowing your pigeons,, i say this as i have won , in the past, a 505 race with a simple celibate cock , racing to the loft, only  ,  

 

spot on (IMO)  

[Guest]

What is motivation? It is the exploitation of a birds nature, when? always while racing, a system is developed to maximise this exploitation.

[jimmy white]

What is motivation? It is the exploitation of a birds nature, when? always while racing, a system is developed to maximise this exploitation.

 

in my opinion

this is quite true,,,, but in this exploitation of the birds nature, can quit often exploit stress , which can defeat the purpose [on occasions ] of motivation in certain pigeons,  [in my opinion all pigeons are individuals , not all motivations will work for all birds ,, again, its knowing the individual pigeon

[Guest]

my opinion for what its worth (not a lot) Contentment,security and love of home is the best motivation then if the bird is fit it will shine i personally feel that a lot of illnesses that are so called picked up in the basket are actually caused by stress caused by the whole experience so why add to the stress by playing games and winding birds up

[Guest Paulo]

my opinion for what its worth (not a lot) Contentment,security and love of home is the best motivation then if the bird is fit it will shine i personally feel that a lot of illnesses that are so called picked up in the basket are actually caused by stress caused by the whole experience so why add to the stress by playing games and winding birds up

 

Cause you can hammer everyone like bitches if you get it right

[pigeonpete]

hi folks, hope all are well, my first post for nearly a year i bet!! has anyone remembered me or missed me? i bet not lol, anyway my input for what its worth, i think we need to treat all our pigeons as individuals, people are very quick to condemn a bird, rather than blaming themselvs, pigeons react in very different ways, at different times of the year/distance. for instance i have 1 bird, that when i have tried to motivate him, by putting another cock in with his hen and locking him out, he didnt react very well and went very shy, tried different things with him along the same lines, and he was always near last and reluctent to go in, i know now it really upset him seeing his hen showing to another cock, and he sulked, ibet your all thinking now what a load of bollox!!, but i was near to killing him! but i thought i would try him with his hen all the time, last 3 races, he was first bird back every time, and won 2 x club firsts and 1 2nd, and was in the top 10 in the fed all 3 races, so this year im going to try and treat all my birds as individuals, i only have 16 cocks, so it will be easier, and yes of course they have to be fit and disease free aswell!! hope this does someone some good,

 

pete

[Guest Paulo]

hi folks, hope all are well, my first post for nearly a year i bet!! has anyone remembered me or missed me? i bet not lol, anyway my input for what its worth, i think we need to treat all our pigeons as individuals, people are very quick to condemn a bird, rather than blaming themselvs, pigeons react in very different ways, at different times of the year/distance. for instance i have 1 bird, that when i have tried to motivate him, by putting another cock in with his hen and locking him out, he didnt react very well and went very shy, tried different things with him along the same lines, and he was always near last and reluctent to go in, i know now it really upset him seeing his hen showing to another cock, and he sulked, ibet your all thinking now what a load of bollox!!, but i was near to killing him! but i thought i would try him with his hen all the time, last 3 races, he was first bird back every time, and won 2 x club firsts and 1 2nd, and was in the top 10 in the fed all 3 races, so this year im going to try and treat all my birds as individuals, i only have 16 cocks, so it will be easier, and yes of course they have to be fit and disease free aswell!! hope this does someone some good,

 

pete

 

I missed you

[ALF]

hi folks, hope all are well, my first post for nearly a year i bet!! has anyone remembered me or missed me? i bet not lol, anyway my input for what its worth, i think we need to treat all our pigeons as individuals, people are very quick to condemn a bird, rather than blaming themselvs, pigeons react in very different ways, at different times of the year/distance. for instance i have 1 bird, that when i have tried to motivate him, by putting another cock in with his hen and locking him out, he didnt react very well and went very shy, tried different things with him along the same lines, and he was always near last and reluctent to go in, i know now it really upset him seeing his hen showing to another cock, and he sulked, ibet your all thinking now what a load of bollox!!, but i was near to killing him! but i thought i would try him with his hen all the time, last 3 races, he was first bird back every time, and won 2 x club firsts and 1 2nd, and was in the top 10 in the fed all 3 races, so this year im going to try and treat all my birds as individuals, i only have 16 cocks, so it will be easier, and yes of course they have to be fit and disease free aswell!! hope this does someone some good,

 

pete

 

Hey Pete how's trick's mate?

[pigeonpete]

 

Hey Pete how's trick's mate?

 

hey alf thing are o.k ta, have had big problems with the birds, have had a bout of e-coli, all cleared up now, hope ur well matey

[speedbird]

im interested to see what everybody does on marking day to motivate there widowhood last week i gave them hen all day put straw in seem to work ended up 1st 4th 5th i suppose this cant be done every week so what else is there ie cock in box,just show bowl,hens ect

[little sam]

Show them a bin bag ;D

[OLDYELLOW]

put a box in a corner with a bow in  lean boards against loft wall put mirrors in with cocks , lock hen in  box and cock out , lock all out of boxes , just show bowl no hen basket of hens in middle of floor , throw a unpaired hen in many things you can do