Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 whate is the correct weight for a racing pigeon and dus any one pay attention to this when raceing ;) ;)this must be a doo thats ready for the job ones the tranings been dun
chickadee Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Would it be different for sprint and distance pigeons :-/
Guest strapper Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 breeds would also differ in size
the dude Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 no two pigeons are alike size or weight
Guest Owen Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 About the only thing you can say on this subject is, that fit birds should look heavy but handle light. If your birds are exercising with elacraty and gusto they will soon reach the right wieght. A bit like a human athlete in training. Hard training and a good diet soon leads to an athletic body.
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 training and diet dos get them into form but to find that supper form i think the pigeons have to peek at a serten weight to reach there gol this normaly gets confused with buyancy in the bird and i no difrent breeds and difrent races may make us think they should be a difrent weight has any one weighed there pigeon befor it has won a big race and tried to get them back to it for the next big race i have read some whare 16 to 17 oz is the perfect weight for all breeds and all races just thout i would ask because there is some top notch flyers on hear ;)
robbiedoo. Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 are you your ideal weight tam - ;D ;D
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 16oz's was the ideal weight told to me many years ago, never weighed any to find out, let my hands tell me if they feel right or not.
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 yes mate thats how you and me can share a seat on the bus and you have been told befor you should not be drinking on a emtey head ;D ;D ;D
leighton1984 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Hi king billy i do think they is some thing in it. i have seen pigeons getting smaller in the last ten years i do think pigeons that are not too heavy will be faster than the fat ones but on a hard race we do see that much weight comes of are pigeons is all the weight water as the pigeon dehydrate and after 2-3 days the pigeon starts to put weight back on.
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 16oz's was the ideal weight told to me many years ago, never weighed any to find out, let my hands tell me if they feel right or not.but every buddys got a difrent opin to wot a pigeons handels like so to be fair it mite suet you and not the next try and fell the weight and the condistion of the widow hod cocks to naturel pigeons do you think there the same or the man thats at the bottem of the sheet to the man thats at the top ;)
BLACK W F Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 robbie did king billy take the big share of the seat as you are on the skinny side ha ha ha
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 robbie did king billy take the big share of the seat as you are on the skinny side ha ha hadont call the ketal black ;D ;D ;D ;D
BLACK W F Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 now now billy i still at my peak weight mate and i know robbie only too well he will tell you i would not take his share as well ha ha ha and he dont drink on anempty heed he just hides what hes thinking ha ha ha
Guest IB Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Part of my learning has been to weigh my pigeons, first handling the bird and then asking myself the question would you be happy to put this bird in the race basket, or does it have a heavy feel to it? before putting it in a box and weighing both on scales, always measuring in grams. I did this because in recent years my club mates had told me my birds were far too heavy. I was surprised to find that on occasions one bird I thought heavy weighed exactly the same as another I thought OK. So I reckon there's more to this 'lightness' and 'heavyness' than just weight on scales. I competed (tried!!) in all SNFC races this year, and I weighed the birds before going, and after coming back (well, those that did come back). Two reasons, I want to know what weight the bird was when it scored so that I can aim for that weight again next year (along with wing, nest condition, training etc) and how much bodyweight the bird lost in the race, which together with recovery, would give me an idea if preparation was good or needed changed or improved for next year.
chickadee Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Two birds can weigh exactly the same, one could be high in muscle the other could be high in fat, handling the bird would judge this. I thought a sprint pigeon would not need as much reserves carbohydrate/fat than a distance pigeon and more muscle would be better for a sprinter :-/
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 now now billy i still at my peak weight mate and i know robbie only too well he will tell you i would not take his share as well ha ha ha and he dont drink on anempty heed he just hides what hes thinking ha ha ha the only peak you are at is the top of a trifle and robbie has a lot to hid what happens on holiday stays in holiday ;D ;D ;D ;D
pigeonpete Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Part of my learning has been to weigh my pigeons, first handling the bird and then asking myself the question would you be happy to put this bird in the race basket, or does it have a heavy feel to it? before putting it in a box and weighing both on scales, always measuring in grams. I did this because in recent years my club mates had told me my birds were far too heavy. I was surprised to find that on occasions one bird I thought heavy weighed exactly the same as another I thought OK. So I reckon there's more to this 'lightness' and 'heavyness' than just weight on scales. I competed (tried!!) in all SNFC races this year, and I weighed the birds before going, and after coming back (well, those that did come back). Two reasons, I want to know what weight the bird was when it scored so that I can aim for that weight again next year (along with wing, nest condition, training etc) and how much bodyweight the bird lost in the race, which together with recovery, would give me an idea if preparation was good or needed changed or improved for next year. And did you learn anything Ian? did it do any good? :-/
BLACK W F Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you must have mis behaved again whats a trifle look like you must have been eating too many take up jogging and robbie will get his share next time what robbies got hes keeping ha ha ha
robbiedoo. Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 tam got that fat of a ass i had to sit on his knee no room left on the seat for me to sit .
pjc Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Part of my learning has been to weigh my pigeons, first handling the bird and then asking myself the question would you be happy to put this bird in the race basket, or does it have a heavy feel to it? before putting it in a box and weighing both on scales, always measuring in grams. I did this because in recent years my club mates had told me my birds were far too heavy. I was surprised to find that on occasions one bird I thought heavy weighed exactly the same as another I thought OK. So I reckon there's more to this 'lightness' and 'heavyness' than just weight on scales. I competed (tried!!) in all SNFC races this year, and I weighed the birds before going, and after coming back (well, those that did come back). Two reasons, I want to know what weight the bird was when it scored so that I can aim for that weight again next year (along with wing, nest condition, training etc) and how much bodyweight the bird lost in the race, which together with recovery, would give me an idea if preparation was good or needed changed or improved for next year. what did they weigh in at? In english please not grammes!
Guest Freebird Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 Two birds can weigh exactly the same, one could be high in muscle the other could be high in fat, handling the bird would judge this. I thought a sprint pigeon would not need as much reserves carbohydrate/fat than a distance pigeon and more muscle would be better for a sprinter :-/ Marathon runners are always very lean i.e no excess weight to carry so I suppose distance to cover will also dictate ideal weight (reserves) to carry?
pigeonpete Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 can we please keep to topic, if you want to compare who is the fattest can you please start your own thread in chit chat ;D
Novice Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 I believe Old Hand was an advocate of weighing the birds to see what was on form. Obviously the optimum weight will vary for each pigeon and we would only identify this by keeping records.
Guest KING BILLY Posted October 20, 2009 Report Posted October 20, 2009 you must have mis behaved again whats a trifle look like you must have been eating too many take up jogging and robbie will get his share next time what robbies got hes keeping ha ha ha am 14and half stone pure punshing power eny one thats dared to step in the ring in the last 3 year nose that so go and se if you can jog up to the post office and colect your penson young man ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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