Mice and their droppings

[blue bar]

A fancier in our club was laughing about how many mice he catches in his loft he says he dosenot need to put bait on a trap and still catches them. I was interested to now what diseases these things give and can do to our birds Im starting to think i do not want my birds in the same box on basketing nights. ??) ??) ??)

[Guest]

As far as I know pigeons can only pick something up from mice if they eat their droppings, or come into contact with feed that they have urinated on.  This could easily happen in the corn merchants warehouses.

[NANCYVIEWLOFTS]

they can catch disease off droppings and urine

also the birds cant rest at night if there are mice running all around the nest boxes

[REDCHEQHEN]

Rats and mice are responsible for transmitting a number of diseases via their urine and droppings. Some of the more common diseases are

Salmonella, Diarrhea, dysentery, food poisoning, gastroenteritis

Toxoplasmosis

Murine typhus

Leptospirosis (or Weil’s disease)

Haemorrhagic fever

 

 

http://www.urbanshield.co.uk/html/rodents.html

[jimmy white]

agree with red cheqhen,, worse things to have in the loft especialy for paratyphoid ,salmonella , which means big trouble

[swilcox]

You will never do any good with mice in the loft.

 

Tip! Put a cocrete slab down then put a single run of Blocks round and sit your loft on that and rather than a wooden floor put grills!!!! The mice will be easier to keep out of the loft and if they do get in they will be away from the birds until you poisen them.

 

Stuart

[morton]

I keep a live catch trap in the feed store all the time. When they start coming in around autumn time, I can have quite a few in one trap. They are disposed of very sportingly ! But never keep feed in the loft. I would be horrified to have mice in the loft. Salmonella - very scary.....

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

HI ONE OF MY PIGEONS HAS PICKED UP A MOUSE DROPPING SOME HOW, AND I WAS WOUNDERING WHAT I SOULD GIVE,

BEN :'( :-/ > :( :'(

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

I AM QUITE WORRIED AS SHE IS QUITE A GOOD PIGEON :'( :'( > :'( :-/ :'( :'(

[THE FIFER]

PROBABLY BE OK, IF A HEALTHY BIRD BUT U COULD GIVE IT SOME BAKING SODA IN A LITTLE WATER,

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

thanks

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

PROBABLY BE OK, IF A HEALTHY BIRD BUT U COULD GIVE IT SOME BAKING SODA IN A LITTLE WATER,

 

WONT THAT BLOW IT UP LIKE A SEAGULL :-/ :-/

[THE FIFER]

WELL U HAVE TO ONLY GIVE IT WELL WATERED, BUT IF IN DOUBT TRY SOME GARLICK WATER, PERSONALLY IF ITS OK I WOULD JUST LEAVE IT, I SAY BAKING SODA BUT ITS REALLY BICARBONATE OF SODA (THE SAME THING AS FAR AS I KNOW.

[Roland]

 

Agree wih The Fifer ... could use Just a tad of Epsom Salts, and feed Linseed 50% for a couple of days, wouldn't hurt none, and al would be passed through...

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

thanks

[jimmy white]

just to add to that having mice in or around the loft can cause serious problems , so i would make real efforts to rid them

[Wiley]

agree with jimmy mice need to be kept away from the loft if they get near the drinker could cause serious problems,are u sure the bird has picked up mice droppings.

[Roland]

I have traps set with a spot of Mars Bar in, they take to that ... Peanut butter is good too, but attracts also, so I feel that would be defeating the object ... and Rats come from afar for Peanut Butter, as the smell attracts... Of course bread witha little antifreeze on it will sort out most critters. Don't worry if it's Blue, for it's sweet so they go for it... culls most about anything, so make sure it is only where the pigeons can't get! Rats and Mice don't mix so if mice are preeasent then that is a small blessing. As soon as the nights draw in, so do the rats and mice. so don't fool yourselves they aren't about, be a rarity if your house hasn't any! Just most folks don't notice. Feed left around of course attracts.

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

ok thanks for the help ;D :'( ;D

[Guest]

Well, its the closed season up here now, and I have been tidying up including acting upon suspicions that I have mice visiting after dark. Found maize eaten down to the husk on the floor of my aviary, just inside the doors.

 

Wondered how they were getting in until I saw a programme on TV the other night - seems they can squeeze through the smallest gap and I think my achilles heel is a panel of 1" x 1" mesh fitted above my doors. Now have a panel of 1/2" x 1/2" which I'll fit behind it. Also learned their urine is deposited in small droplets all over the place, kinda incontinent like, rather than a good scoosh here and there.

 

Also gone hi-tec and fitted 2 x ultrasonic 'screamers' which deter rodents and 'supposedly' turn the electrical circuits into electro-magnetic insect repellant / breeding disrupters. Also ionise the air inside the loft. Can definitely feel a difference in there, but I can't tell what the difference actually is. Fitted 3-weeks ago, and the birds seem more peaceful at night .... except

 

Caught a bleedin cat round my cat-proof back garden the other night. Knew I'd been getting visits now & again, saw paw and claw-marks on the sloping glass roof of my veranda, paw marks turned to claw scrapes as it tried to walk up the glass slope, and slipped back.

 

Done everything physical that I can to keep cats away (except the cat-plant, don't know its name or where I can get it) so going hi-tech again and going to fit a cat 'screamer'.

 

 

 

Agree with Fifer's bit about garlic. Been using it regular in the water, twice, three times a week, since suspecting the mousy problem, though no mouse droppings that I know of. Kinda belt & braces stuff, and the birds are certainly OK, although from this year I intend to start an end-of-season 'health check' on them, by our local avian vet.

  

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

THEY ARE GETTING IN MY FLOOR VENT

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

;D ;DWELL THEY WERE ;D ;D

[jimmy white]

remember its not the pigeons that attract mice,,its the grain, youll be surprised where youll get mice , nearly every one will get a mouse or two , without seeing them , so its worth a galley pot of mouse poison some where the birds can definately not get near and im not taking the mickey,,,,,,mousey ;D ;D ;D

[Guest REDFOXKRAUTHS]

lol

[Tic eye Hen]

Hiya, Any of you guys got a great way of getting rid of mice in the loft????