Young Bird looks ill

[pigeonman007]

Hi,

One of my latebreds has been looking off colour the last couple of days, he is excersing with the others but always puffed up when in the loft.

I just felt his crop and it is full of corn from last nights feed but still wants to eat.

Advice appreciated

Craig

[pjc]

If he's holding food then empty his crop and withold food for 24hrs but also get him tested.

[OLDYELLOW]

isolate give water only when crop empty give a drop of lemon juice via syringe down its crop then feed wheat with  yoghurt with a bit of brewers yeast and mix abit of grit  hopefully this will kick start it metabalism

[pigeonman007]

How do I empty the crop, is it just done by squeazing upwards.  

Have him in a box on his own and just checked droppings, they are normal

[OLDYELLOW]

isolate dont feed just give water , go collect a few wood louses and put them down its crop it will soon empty it

[pigeonman007]

He now has a few woodlice in his crop. Reminds me when I was handrearing a greenfinch with broken mealworms. will the woodlice make him yack up?

[OLDYELLOW]

well i have been told they will induce vomiting never tried it but heard it so many times , it must work

[john niko]

throw a panacure worm tablet down its gob that will soon empty its crop

[OLDYELLOW]

very true as supposed to make sick and should not feed for 24hrs before treatment , nice one john

[Guest IB]

I think its a mistake to try and empty the crop. When you are dealing with crop retention in YBS for example, you withhold feed for 24 hours, I thought that was to let it empty naturally. You have absolutely no idea what organisms these wood lice could be carrying in their body and you may have infected a perfectly healthy bird doing this.  ??)

 

The reason I say the bird is healthy is because of the things that do not add up here: the bird is happy to exercise - sick birds don't fly & droppings are normal, so crop is emptying otherwise droppings would be far from normal. So it is unlikely that there is anything wrong, health-wise.

 

If you are unsure about any bird, best pop it into a box with water + a spot of cider vinegar or a crushed garlic clove for a couple of days to give the bird a chance to come round on its own. If it doesn't, then go through droppings test / vet routines.

 

 

 

[kev01293]

hiya craig  ive got a yb exactly like yours   its eating and flying fine at excercise but sits puffed up in loft :-/  shes been treated for worms,cocci and canker earlier in the year and also tested with the results coming back as a bacterial infection,that was treated for and the bird is still the same as before :-/  kev

[OLDYELLOW]

lemon juice or cider vinegar will keep bacteria at bay then top up the good bacteria with live natural yoghurt

[weecunny]

think ib spot on there

 

[frank-123]

I think its a mistake to try and empty the crop. When you are dealing with crop retention in YBS for example, you withhold feed for 24 hours, I thought that was to let it empty naturally. You have absolutely no idea what organisms these wood lice could be carrying in their body and you may have infected a perfectly healthy bird doing this.  ??)

 

The reason I say the bird is healthy is because of the things that do not add up here: the bird is happy to exercise - sick birds don't fly & droppings are normal, so crop is emptying otherwise droppings would be far from normal. So it is unlikely that there is anything wrong, health-wise.

 

If you are unsure about any bird, best pop it into a box with water + a spot of cider vinegar or a crushed garlic clove for a couple of days to give the bird a chance to come round on its own. If it doesn't, then go through droppings test / vet routines.

 

 

 

what vet do you use ib?

 

 

[Guest IB]

 

what vet do you use ib?

 

 

The guy I have gone to is Lawrie on the High Station Road in Falkirk. I've only consulted him twice both wing problems, one was an infected shoulder joint, the other was a broken bone (radius). Other than that there's been nothing in loft that warranted a visit.

 

Did take advantage of David Parson's free loft dropping test (comes with purchase of his DVD) beginning of this year, and beginning of next will try Lawrie for a loft health check before pairing birds up.

 

 

[REDCHEQHEN]

wood lice are good for giving your birds tapeworms (shrug)

amongst other things

[barnsley_pigeonman]

give it live yoghurt 2 tto 3 day days then coxie it

[wolfey11]

I think you might try a charcoal tablet - available from health food shops.

[Roland]

Wood lice are good for cleaning out, no two ways about that. Now, on a slight downer, woodlice are picked up by poultry, like pheasnats, partrigdes etc. and become a part of the circle. They breed inside the birds.

[Guest IB]

Wood lice are good for cleaning out, no two ways about that. Now, on a slight downer, woodlice are picked up by poultry, like pheasnats, partrigdes etc. and become a part of the circle. They breed inside the birds.

 

Think this is what you are referring to, don't think it's wise to put a 'pregnant female' in the pigeon's crop:-

 

Life Cycle

After mating the female woodlouse commences to produce a variable number of eggs usually up to about 150. These are contained within her body, in a brood pouch, until the young have hatched when they are then released into the environment. The young woodlouse is white and 2mm long. The woodlouse grows through moulting its skin and when fully grown may be 15 mm in length. It also has seven pairs of legs. In Britain it is common for most of the species of woodlice to produce only one generation of offspring per year.

 

Bit like hoovering up a pregnant female spider.