Ross08 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 ONE OLD PIGEON FOUND IN LOFT WITH SYMPTOMS... All other pigeons seem fine with no symptoms. The bird is looking up at loft ceiling and a slight imbalance... Bird has been isolated and within a few hours seemed to have lost its sight almost completely. One other pigeon found in the same state in the loft two years ago. Anybody any ideas what this could be? Possible Paratyphoid / Paramyxo? I'm an experienced flyer of over 30 years, but I need a little help with this one if anybody is able to offer some guidance lease.
adam owen Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 sounds like paramyxo i would jab all birds asap
dwh Posted February 22, 2010 Report Posted February 22, 2010 :-/ONE OLD PIGEON FOUND IN LOFT WITH SYMPTOMS... All other pigeons seem fine with no symptoms. The bird is looking up at loft ceiling and a slight imbalance... Bird has been isolated and within a few hours seemed to have lost its sight almost completely. One other pigeon found in the same state in the loft two years ago. Anybody any ideas what this could be? Possible Paratyphoid / Paramyxo? I'm an experienced flyer of over 30 years, but I need a little help with this one if anybody is able to offer some guidance lease. could be either best bet is see a good vet only advice i can give you
Tony C Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 A symptom of Paramixo is what they call star gazing, looking up as you describe. Getting the pigeon tested is the only sure way of finding out.
pigeonpete Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 sounds like paramyxo i would jab all birds asap With respect jabbing them if they have it will not cure it, And both have similiar symptons. I had paratyphoid, not nice attall. So really need to get them tested. Have they been jabbed for paratyphoid/pmv? hope no more have got it.
pjc Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 contact your local DEFRA, they will arrange to correct testing as these are notifiable diseases!
Guest strapper Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 With respect jabbing them if they have it will not cure it, And both have similiar symptons. I had paratyphoid, not nice attall. So really need to get them tested. Have they been jabbed for paratyphoid/pmv? hope no more have got it. hi pete yes if it is diagnosed then vaccinating them is the way to go, it might sound backwards but its the right thing to do. it is believed that when they get this type of illness their organs like their kidneys etc start shutting down so the injection is believed to kick the kidneys back into action ..thus enabling the imune system to kick back into working....to fight the illness. the instructions would be to get rid of all birds showing signs of the illness and vaccinate the rest. but i would advise anyone with suspected signs to visit a vet with knowledge of this type of illness. guessing will only result in further birds testing for the illness. act now or pay later!!
pigeonpete Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 hi pete yes if it is diagnosed then vaccinating them is the way to go, it might sound backwards but its the right thing to do. it is believed that when they get this type of illness their organs like their kidneys etc start shutting down so the injection is believed to kick the kidneys back into action ..thus enabling the imune system to kick back into working....to fight the illness. the instructions would be to get rid of all birds showing signs of the illness and vaccinate the rest. but i would advise anyone with suspected signs to visit a vet with knowledge of this type of illness. guessing will only result in further birds testing for the illness. act now or pay later!! Sorry paul i stand corrected. :-) And sorry Adam too :-) yes need to find out which it is first.
Guest strapper Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 Sorry paul i stand corrected. :-) And sorry Adam too :-) yes need to find out which it is first. pete no need to sorry m8 i would have thought the same a few years back..till i read up on it.
walterbmasson Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 i cant understand why go and get birds tested if they are already vaxinated weed the birds out that are like this will sort out all problems in ones loft this time off year the birds should be like pictures if not ventilation is suspect (if in doubt chuck it out bin )
swilcox Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 Isolate infected birds as soon as possible, its paramyxo i would think, i had something very similiar in October 2008 and it took around 5 weeks to clear the loft completely. Use Columbivac today or lastest tomorrow, it will work in around 4 weeks so at least it will give you an end date. Keep plenty of food in the hopper and give electrolytes and multi vits everyday, also Sedichol will really help protect the livers. As for the invected birds some will not be in good condition come the end and you will have to take a view on them but some esp breeding birds can make a good recovery. My 2009 old bird season wasnt good and i put this down to the outbreak in October however from that Old Bird team i bred the best team of young birds ive ever had, so there is hope. Arguably you need to vacinate twice a year!!!!
BLACK W F Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 it sounds like its Paramyxo? judging by your discription if ones got it they will all have it just some will show the symptoms like losing ballance head kneck twisting as long as they eat and drink they will over come it jab them and keep multi vits in the water and they will come ok but still get them tested and before any one knocks this i had it many years ago with my y/bs and let it run its corse and with in a fortnight all clear i culled 2 that was all and some of the best birds i ever had where bred that year
Guest IB Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 ONE OLD PIGEON FOUND IN LOFT WITH SYMPTOMS... All other pigeons seem fine with no symptoms. One other pigeon found in the same state in the loft two years ago. What did you do / find out about the case two years ago?
OLDYELLOW Posted February 23, 2010 Report Posted February 23, 2010 issolate ill birds and take one or two to a avian vet ( one dead for autopsy one alive to test ) you can only effectively treat when you know exactly what you have , as said in here the two diseases are notifiable contact defra and they'll advise where to get tested all the best Mark
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