babies dying

[jimmy white]

 

just  a bit early to say kev but lets wait and see if the fanciers that havent paired up yet have the same prob,s if so it will be milder and we cant blame the cold snap so lets here from you,s when the time comes

 

think im poss on the same wave length here :-/ :-/ :-/,  will be interesting to see

[black badge]

No-one has mention nest felts, there has been lots of problems with these over the last couple of years mainly with the black one's, just a thought.

[alex wight]

Well thank the lord, no more dead young today. Came home expecting the worst, but all seems to be well. I,ve opened one box that has a young bird in the nest, and will start to open them one at a time till they are all open. Fingers crossed all goes to plan, time will tell. Thank you all for your thoughts and theories, its been really interesting, and will bear in mind all these ideas for the future.

 

I, ve not used the black nest felts, i only use the coconut ones. I,m putting straw in the nests for the second round, and will be giving them their liberty.

 

Thanks again, alex.

[robbiedoo.]

 

Might be either the cock or hen trying to get out of the box. With mine, the pigeon that's not due to sit usually wants as far away from the box as possible. If that's the case it will be jumping at the nest front all along its length, and will think nothing of trampling over the nest bowl, eggs & youngsters too, trying to get out.

 

this it what i would of thought aswell alex . i will give you a phone at the weekend pal

[alex wight]

 

this it what i would of thought aswell alex . i will give you a phone at the weekend pal

 

Aye, this is a big learning curve, a sare one at that :-/

[aye ready]

alex i use the coconut nest felts but i also let thm build on top of them with straw if they wan't to

[weecunny]

look for the wee mouse  ad bet money on  it .the colds keeping them in side as well

[alex wight]

Just a wee update on things here.

 

12 pairs went down within 5 days of each other, great so far.

 

3 pairs were empty.

1 pair was filled but the pair didnt incubate them fully.

2 pair lifted

1 pair had one hatch and the other didnt hatch

2 pair have 2 young in the nest.

1 pair kicked the 2 young out the nest, killing them.

2 pair kicked 1 out the nest.

 

and now i,ve just got rid of a realy small young bird, not strong enough.

 

So now i have 6 young birds out a possible 24 = 25% success rate, bloody nightmare. I,ve now opened the boxes, that have young birds in them, giving the parents their freedom (which i think has caused the problem). When the others lay for the second time, i,ll open their boxes up as well. I just hope that i,m in control of my bad breeding so far. Time will tell.

 

cheers, alex.  :-/

[ionela]

I had 6 pairs hatch at the weekend, but came home tonight to find 3 kicked out of the nest, and dead. The others are ok, for now, even the one that had its nest mate kicked out. Why does this happen? i,m pointing towards it being very cold at the moment, and that the adults are sitting too tight to protect their young. Apart from that, i,m at a loss as to what is the reason. Thanks in advance for your replies, alex. :-/

 

i think your eggs have salmonella virus and u need to treath your pigeons for this virus

[budgie]

Alex

Sorry to hear of your nighmares but i belive it is Paratyphoid which is a peristent disease which infects some of the loft in-mates.However it could also be Salmonella/Paratyphoid during the breeding season which has a clinical devasting outcome which could also be the case here.Treatment is still as problematic as it was 30 years ago with no real cure.

[alex wight]

I,m not sure that its any disease, but am open minded. The problem as reported, is the confinement of the adults, causing stress.

 

Lesson learned. The adults are settling down now that they are free to roam the loft

[aye ready]

alex the ones that are not on eggs give them their freedom out of the boxes aswell you are preventing the natural driving process of the cock and you'll find if he gets to drive his hen to the nest they'll probably go down on eggs that bit quicker (ok)

[aye ready]

where did this thread go can't sem to find it,it was put on originally by catalae lofts

[aye ready]

this post was put up originally by catalea lofts and ressurected by myself after i couldn't find find it less than half an hour ago so why is it been removed and by whom

[OLDYELLOW]

pure magic

[alex wight]

Just a wee update.

 

I have opened all 12 boxes since i last posted.

 

I have 4 boxes with young birds in the nest, and have 7 boxes with eggs.

 

The loft is totally different, really calm and settled, so i am convinced it was confinement to boxes that caused me all my problems.

 

Lesson learnt.

 

Thank you very much to all who gave an opinion, very much appreciatted.

 

All the very best to you all for 2010 and beyond. Alex.

[sapper756]

Just a wee update.

 

I have opened all 12 boxes since i last posted.

 

I have 4 boxes with young birds in the nest, and have 7 boxes with eggs.

 

The loft is totally different, really calm and settled, so i am convinced it was confinement to boxes that caused me all my problems.

 

Lesson learnt.

 

Thank you very much to all who gave an opinion, very much appreciatted.

 

All the very best to you all for 2010 and beyond. Alex.

 

Happy to hear this Alec m8

 

 

[thunderbigbaws]

Just a wee update.

 

I have opened all 12 boxes since i last posted.

 

I have 4 boxes with young birds in the nest, and have 7 boxes with eggs.

 

The loft is totally different, really calm and settled, so i am convinced it was confinement to boxes that caused me all my problems.

 

Lesson learnt.

 

Thank you very much to all who gave an opinion, very much appreciatted.

 

All the very best to you all for 2010 and beyond. Alex.

 

thats braw eck a happy loft makes prices

[alex wight]

cheers to the two brians, and heres hoping  ;D ;D

[sapper756]

cheers to the two brians, and heres hoping  ;D ;D

 

that,ll be big Brian and wee Brian ;D ;D ;D

[alex wight]

 

that,ll be big Brian and wee Brian ;D ;D ;D

 

You,ve got me confused there wee/big brian  ;D ;D ;D

[pjc]

At least not all is lost for 2010, as you say, a lesson learnt.

 

Good luck for 2010!

 

Phil

[alex wight]

At least not all is lost for 2010, as you say, a lesson learnt.

 

Good luck for 2010!

 

Phil

 

Cheers phil, it was a close one, and its not over yet

[thunderbigbaws]

 

that,ll be big Brian and wee Brian ;D ;D ;D

 

your wifes a clipe brian  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[pjc]

As I said earlier you can still have 100% guarantee of parentage by letting pairs out one at a time for an hour or so each day until they have laid. Once they have laid doing it this way the birds will know where there boxes are, have freedom and space to tread and then you can open all the boxes up to give the birds there freedom.