alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I had 6 pairs hatch at the weekend, but came home tonight to find 3 kicked out of the nest, and dead. The others are ok, for now, even the one that had its nest mate kicked out. Why does this happen? i,m pointing towards it being very cold at the moment, and that the adults are sitting too tight to protect their young. Apart from that, i,m at a loss as to what is the reason. Thanks in advance for your replies, alex. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 I had 6 pairs hatch at the weekend, but came home tonight to find 3 kicked out of the nest, and dead. The others are ok, for now, even the one that had its nest mate kicked out. Why does this happen? i,m pointing towards it being very cold at the moment, and that the adults are sitting too tight to protect their young. Apart from that, i,m at a loss as to what is the reason. Thanks in advance for your replies, alex. :-/ Alex to be honest have never hd anything like that in 40 years m8 , mayby and odd egg broke or a nest trampled with a fight . Just watch you dont have a rougue cock knocking the nests about or somthing is not frightening the birds of the nest very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammy Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 weaklings old ones know and chuck them out the nest its natures way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 weaklings old ones know and chuck them out the nest its natures way could also have died with the frosty weather the now and the pairs have thrown them on the floor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tori.no. nail Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 you might find birds getting in wrong boxs when dark ,something frightening them at night .i have had it happen with some cock birds over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaz Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 had the same last week 3 young dead a few pairs only one egg hatched. two ybs squashed bad start to the breeding season i put it down to the bleep weather. as all went well last year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 All my birds are locked in their own boxes, so dont have the chance or risk of fighting. The idea of weaklings is interesting. It is freezing here at the moment with drinkers constantly freezing, just hope the rest are going to be ok, as if not its going to be a struggle to get the team i want, i,m sure it will be :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Apart from a few stock pairs i paired last week the rest of my birds are still seperated the weather for the last month or 2 has been welll below freezing most nights. when my birds are paired they nomlly build very big deep nests with straw whic in turn keeps eggs and babies nice and warm and goes a long way to contentment in the loft when you have plenty straw in the nest bowls if there is a fight the young or eggs tend to go down int the straw and not get trampled . with just nest felts or tobbacco stocks tey are much easier trampld and eggs broken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frank dooman Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 this year there is something different going on i now have heard of 4 other fanciers that have had similar situations eggs broken not hathching i put it down to the cold spell but now i wonder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Apart from a few stock pairs i paired last week the rest of my birds are still seperated the weather for the last month or 2 has been welll below freezing most nights. when my birds are paired they nomlly build very big deep nests with straw whic in turn keeps eggs and babies nice and warm and goes a long way to contentment in the loft when you have plenty straw in the nest bowls if there is a fight the young or eggs tend to go down int the straw and not get trampled . with just nest felts or tobbacco stocks tey are much easier trampld and eggs broken That was another thing a was thinking, that the tobacco stalk nest arent deep enough to keep them at the right temperture. I,m going to get straw for when they go down again, and see if there is any difference. Its all about learning i suppose, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 this year there is something different going on i now have heard of 4 other fanciers that have had similar situations eggs broken not hathching i put it down to the cold spell but now i wonder Out of 12 pairs, i had 7 hatch, and 4 empty, the other 1 was filled but not incubated properly. I wouldnt have thought anything could scare them as they cant see out. And i always say, that if one can do it then theres no reason why the others cant. Just seems strange, and frustrating :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 this year there is something different going on i now have heard of 4 other fanciers that have had similar situations eggs broken not hathching i put it down to the cold spell but now i wonder Frank we have never had 3 months of minus 5 degres for 40 years they are saying, most winters have been very mild of late. going back to when you used to get the cold frozen winters most people didnt pair up till end feb mid march them everyone seems to go in Dec nowadays , Totally against nature and i think the severe cold has bit a lot of people in the ars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frank dooman Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes agree robert but i think there is more to it than that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 everyone seems to go in Dec nowadays , Totally against nature and i think the severe cold has bit a lot of people in the ars My preferred time for breeding is febuary, however due to my circumstances of the past couple of years i,m racing against time, to try and get a decent team together. Once that is in place, things should settle down for me. The weather has been brutal this year, and hope is a one of, just a wee bit demoralising when you put all your plans in place for it to go pear shaped so easily and more importantly, out of your control. :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwh Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 this year there is something different going on i now have heard of 4 other fanciers that have had similar situations eggs broken not hathching i put it down to the cold spell but now i wonder funny you say that frank we had three hens gone funny on us and lot of the lads saying the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sapper756 Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Sorry to hear this Alec, however, if you find your self short of youngsters, give me a bell and I,ll breed you a couple m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Sorry to hear this Alec, however, if you find your self short of youngsters, give me a bell and I,ll breed you a couple m8 good man sapper nice offer there m8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDYELLOW Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 had the same last week 3 young dead a few pairs only one egg hatched. two ybs squashed bad start to the breeding season i put it down to the bleep weather. as all went well last year . had pretty much same one squashed and a load of clear eggs , i put most down to the extreme weather conditions We've all been having , other reasons can be electric lights , bird in wrong boxes or weak birds , but i believe we've all had great breeding seasons in past as we've had very mild weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stb- Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 funny you say that frank we had three hens gone funny on us and lot of the lads saying the same funny thing aswell the only ones i no that have had probs with hens are the ones who have paired in the cold weather, most i know that aint paired ,hens are bouncing ;) when we get a bit of cloud cover and some more sunshine things will change around ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Sorry to hear this Alec, however, if you find your self short of youngsters, give me a bell and I,ll breed you a couple m8 Thank you Brian, i,m sure all will work out for the best. Not looking at a big team this year, not overly concerned , as long as it doesnt happen in round 2, or 3 or 4 only joking they will get a second go at it, if that fails then its time for sos ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbill Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 alex, give me a shout i a breed you 6 or as many as you need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 alex, give me a shout i a breed you 6 or as many as you need Sterling offer mucker just like Sapper, i,ll be waiting to see what the next few weeks bring, hopefully not have to take the offer up, but will be in the back of my mind, should i need to. thanks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IB Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 All my birds are locked in their own boxes, so dont have the chance or risk of fighting. Might be either the cock or hen trying to get out of the box. With mine, the pigeon that's not due to sit usually wants as far away from the box as possible. If that's the case it will be jumping at the nest front all along its length, and will think nothing of trampling over the nest bowl, eggs & youngsters too, trying to get out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kevin b Posted February 22, 2010 Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 yes agree robert but i think there is more to it than that Me thinks you have a theory Frank, have you found any common denominators in the stories you heard. Seems too wide spread to be anything else, have been listening to our lads over here, simular problems has been freezing for quite a while but wouldnt be as cold as where you are. It has been a long time since we had anything like this weather and its intresting to remember years ago no one went down untill feb at least. Kevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex wight Posted February 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2010 Might be either the cock or hen trying to get out of the box. With mine, the pigeon that's not due to sit usually wants as far away from the box as possible. If that's the case it will be jumping at the nest front all along its length, and will think nothing of trampling over the nest bowl, eggs & youngsters too, trying to get out. Interesting, as i,ve heard a couple of them do just that. As i say i,m learning, so all these theories are helping me look at my set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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