chickadee Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I just found this link, I thought paratyphoid was different from samonela :-/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxoFvAFgRs&NR=1
cemetary Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 I know of quite a few cases of paramixo in the area this year. I think that there are some who think that they can get away without the vaccination. Well you can not because it is in a lot of the birds yours will mix with. And the chances of getting away with it these days is very remote. One case I saw was brought to the loft by bought in birds. These birds came from one of the top lofts in Britain. When I told the guy who owned them what it was, he did not believe me, at first. We managed to save quite a few but, I think, I put six down. The Owner had paid a heck of a lot of money for these birds. What a waste. In another case the Guy had bought youngsters to compete in the breeder/buyer races. Again paramixo came with them and caused a big problem. And again there was a lot of money thrown down the drain. The solution is easy. Isolate new birds and automatically vaccinate everything at the loft. It's the only way. Unless the birds have been done Owen, you can only go on the information you have been told when buying new birds in, i wouldnt like a jag in the neck twice, so its the seller to be honest about it they have been done, what will you doo, take there word for it, or give them another, what way can it be proven they have been done, :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/
alvagate Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 if this is the case i think you should vac twice a year beginning and at the end of racing
HOMER49 Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Unless the birds have been done Owen, you can only go on the information you have been told when buying new birds in, i wouldnt like a jag in the neck twice, so its the seller to be honest about it they have been done, what will you doo, take there word for it, or give them another, what way can it be proven they have been done, :-/ :-/ :-/ :-/ Hi I mistakenly jagged 6 y/b twice this year (braincells are receding) within 10 days There has been no adverse affect that I can see so any y/b I purchase will receive a jag on entering my loft whether the owner says its jagged or not Far better to be safe than sorry Cheers Homer 49
cemetary Posted September 25, 2009 Report Posted September 25, 2009 Hi I mistakenly jagged 6 y/b twice this year (braincells are receding) within 10 days There has been no adverse affect that I can see so any y/b I purchase will receive a jag on entering my loft whether the owner says its jagged or not Far better to be safe than sorry Cheers Homer 49 Alex, that is up to the owner of he birds, but all i say is, if they have been jagged once, should they recieve another when entering there new loft,
Guest strapper Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 I just found this link, I thought paratyphoid was different from samonela :-/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFxoFvAFgRs&NR=1 hi ,no its more or less the same thing i think many moons ago some brained up biologist thought lets call it something different
Guest strapper Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 I know of quite a few cases of paramixo in the area this year. I think that there are some who think that they can get away without the vaccination. Well you can not because it is in a lot of the birds yours will mix with. And the chances of getting away with it these days is very remote. One case I saw was brought to the loft by bought in birds. These birds came from one of the top lofts in Britain. When I told the guy who owned them what it was, he did not believe me, at first. We managed to save quite a few but, I think, I put six down. The Owner had paid a heck of a lot of money for these birds. What a waste. In another case the Guy had bought youngsters to compete in the breeder/buyer races. Again paramixo came with them and caused a big problem. And again there was a lot of money thrown down the drain. The solution is easy. Isolate new birds and automatically vaccinate everything at the loft. It's the only way. hi owen m8...i think there are far too many who think that they wont be unlucky enough to get it, then they try to cure it with some medication they have hanging about the loft. then they send to the race and wonder why they are behind and losing birds. and the worst case scenario is they have invected someone else who thought they could get away without vaccinating. as i did this year in youngbirds i will continue to vaccinate early now right through old and young in 2010.
Guest grizzler Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 glad to hear your over it. good luck :)
Guest IB Posted September 26, 2009 Report Posted September 26, 2009 hi ,no its more or less the same thing i think many moons ago some brained up biologist thought lets call it something different It is the same thing. Its sometimes called paratyphus too. Agree its confusing, for me its 'disease and the organism that causes it' for example canker ~ trichomonas. But others add 'is' to the organism and call that the disease, hence salmonellosis. Not to be confused with paramyxo though, the subject of this thread, and one of the reasons I'd caution against using the word 'para' to describe 'the' disease. Could mean either.
paul10121968 Posted September 29, 2009 Author Report Posted September 29, 2009 paul can you pm me the person who bought your ybs in the sale would like to get in contact i have pm you several times if you wish to with draw the donation and ybs pleaser let me know so i can in form the buyer thanks ian sent you a pm.
bruno1 Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 Paul, your last question on this thread has been used to create a new one on the same board, "Young Bird Sickness and Circovirus"
Guest BRYANBROCK Posted September 30, 2009 Report Posted September 30, 2009 i agree with that statment good sound advice a friend of mine bought 6 from there and all binned the same day and sent rings back
Guest Posted October 1, 2009 Report Posted October 1, 2009 links and information for Helen ( HELLZBELLZ) . andy.
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