pigeonpete Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 This is a serious question, can pigeons get travel sickness? just been thinking about what someone said to me last week about a pigeon of his that always does well on hold overs, Just got me thinking as to why, surely some birds must travel better than others? Maybe some good birds just feel rough after the journey? or am i just thinking rubbish?
greenlands Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Hi Pete,probably rubbish mate,but then again who knows for sure,I think it's probably excitement/nerves and having feed in their crop that will make them throw up.I have at the moment got some young birds that a scared of heights but I'm sure it's just youth and nerves. Lindsay
pigeonpete Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Posted April 13, 2010 Hi Pete,probably rubbish mate,but then again who knows for sure,I think it's probably excitement/nerves and having feed in their crop that will make them throw up.I have at the moment got some young birds that a scared of heights but I'm sure it's just youth and nerves. Lindsay scared of heights!!! lol ;D didnt just mean the throwing up, just generally off colour, and not up for a flight of 100 plus miles,
OLDYELLOW Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 i think its lack of experience stress ectra if birds are introduced to baskets earlier then they get used to them and are less stressed so travel better jmo
greenlands Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 I have a 24 bird basket in my young bird loft,when the youngens are put through the flap is left open for them to sleep in or whatever,once they start perching the straw is removed and the flap closed.I then use the basket to get them use to going in and out of it and feeding in it,but just a small handfull of black rape.Open the flap throw in the rape and you have 90% of your youngens in the basket, also take the drinker out of the loft and put drinkers on the basket,it works for me. Lindsay
peterpau Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Travel will surely affect some birds more than others, and some are sick, I would think you're dead right, some birds will rest better in the crates also. We don't only need birds than can fly long distances in good time but also birds that can stay healthy for up to a week in a crate. I think you're looking beyond the thinking of most.
pigeonpete Posted April 13, 2010 Author Report Posted April 13, 2010 Travel will surely affect some birds more than others, and some are sick, I would think you're dead right, some birds will rest better in the crates also. We don't only need birds than can fly long distances in good time but also birds that can stay healthy for up to a week in a crate. I think you're looking beyond the thinking of most. was just a long thought i had last night, it affects humans, and i also remember a mate who had greyhounds, and he had to take 1 the day before a meeting as it was that ill from travel, but after 24 hours was right as rain again, and won a fair few, But last most of the time it was raced on day of travel??
kev43 Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 I have a 24 bird basket in my young bird loft,when the youngens are put through the flap is left open for them to sleep in or whatever,once they start perching the straw is removed and the flap closed.I then use the basket to get them use to going in and out of it and feeding in it,but just a small handfull of black rape.Open the flap throw in the rape and you have 90% of your youngens in the basket, also take the drinker out of the loft and put drinkers on the basket,it works for me. Lindsay exactly way we doin it lindsay no other way to get your yb,s used to baskets ,,we will b basketin them thru flaps when we train and when we send them to the race thats way no stress caused by pickin them up all the time
Tony C Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Off subject a bit Fella in my club put a w/h cock through basketing night and it started rocking back and forth in the basket as if it was going to snuff it. Its eyes were slowly closing and it seemed it didn't have the strength to keep its head up, it looked as if it was getting weaker by the second. We pulled the pigeon out and informed the fancier the pigeon wasn't right. The fancier who was no mug swore blind the pigeon was fine and couldn't understand it. He took the pigeon home and put it back in he's box with he's hen and it trod the hen straight away, not a thing wrong with it. The following week he brought the pigeon up again to be raced and stone me the pigeon behaved exactly the same way as the previous week and again we had to pull it out. He took it back home put it with he's hen and it was fine again. Could only be the stress brought on by it all was to much for it.
greenlands Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Hi Tony,wouldn't you do the same ,not bad pulled out of a basket and a young hen put in front of you,next week please.LOL ;D ;D ;D Lindsay
peterpau Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Tony I don't think that's off subject at all. You can train 'em as much as you like but they won't all handle it the same.
north wales novice- Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 hi Pete , am sure you often think rubbish mate (evil). but i do remember reading an article a few years back where the fancier in question had a magnet fixed to the opening on his basket, each bird going in was held under the magnet for a few seconds (as if to polarise it ?) he won very well with his birds ,am sure this wasnt what made him win . i believe it could be worth a go and may help . maybe some of the older site members could remember . andy.
Guest IB Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 I know they do get travel sickness. Discovered that going to my national marking station, some birds were chucking it up in my basket on the bus, they'd only been very lightly fed a few hours earlier. Birds were late that race. Was able to get a lift after that, and they travelled OK. Then went back on bus to my national marking station with 1 YB and she started chucking up almost as soon as we left the bus station, she had been very lightly fed in morning, I never saw her again. I train by bus & train and have never experienced this problem before. I don't know why it happens on one particular journey.
pjc Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Birds being fed to late in the day of marking or prior training will often throw up and in many cases this is the cause of sickness being passed around the basket. Fortunatly all our crates have grids so and food brought up can't be eaten by others! They just don't travel well with full crops, possibly because they are in the dark boot of a car being thrown around or bouncing about in the back of a transporter, i'm sure i'd be sick the way some are treated.
demolition man Posted April 13, 2010 Report Posted April 13, 2010 Birds being fed to late in the day of marking or prior training will often throw up and in many cases this is the cause of sickness being passed around the basket. Fortunatly all our crates have grids so and food brought up can't be eaten by others! They just don't travel well with full crops, possibly because they are in the dark boot of a car being thrown around or bouncing about in the back of a transporter, i'm sure i'd be sick the way some are treated. in some cases this maybe true, but i know few a top fancier feed there birds in the basket after showing there hens on race night just before taking them to the club
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