holmsidelofts Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 this is ufonded they have paid the most money not just for there racing team but the hol famlie of birds so to say thay have not been tested is wrong thay have bout more champing birds than any one in the uk facts ;D ;D ;D based upon the amount of birds they breed each year its a very small % of birds that wins and thats fact, I dont dispute they have purchased quality birds over the years but compare them to the likes of M&D Evans theres no comparison in how many champions they breed. I have purchased birds in the past from louella and the quality of these have been rubbish. maybe thats just bad luck on my part but i would never go there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjloft Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think LPW puts "fashionable" strains within the reach of most fanciers, you can currently get Lindelauf, van Lint & vd Rhee 6 for £150 - how much would other studs ask for these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 based upon the amount of birds they breed each year its a very small % of birds that wins and thats fact, I dont dispute they have purchased quality birds over the years but compare them to the likes of M&D Evans theres no comparison in how many champions they breed. I have purchased birds in the past from louella and the quality of these have been rubbish. maybe thats just bad luck on my part but i would never go there. its the facts that count and if every one that confiremd there results it would be difrent a lot of pep are wining with birds frome louela and dont confirm this is facts good doo men will win with good doos and bad doo men wont win with good doos so did you by m/d evens doos and win ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think LPW puts "fashionable" strains within the reach of most fanciers, you can currently get Lindelauf, van Lint & vd Rhee 6 for £150 - how much would other studs ask for these? yeah they do, but they are that far bred from the champions the chances of you getting anything like a champion out of them is very slim. So buying birds that are not proven racers or breeders is a lottery, you are better off going to a complete sale and paying that extra cost for birds you know have produced, just because its a fashionable name means nothing, you need birds as close to the champions as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holmsidelofts Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 its the facts that count and if every one that confiremd there results it would be difrent a lot of pep are wining with birds frome louela and dont confirm this is facts good doo men will win with good doos and bad doo men wont win with good doos so did you by m/d evens doos and win ;) I dont own M&D evans pigeons i just used there name as an example of a small stud that produces more winning pigeons than the big studs, and yes i have won many times at top level, so i think i can comment on that. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 yeah they do, but they are that far bred from the champions the chances of you getting anything like a champion out of them is very slim. So buying birds that are not proven racers or breeders is a lottery, you are better off going to a complete sale and paying that extra cost for birds you know have produced, just because its a fashionable name means nothing, you need birds as close to the champions as possible. YES YOUR WRIGHT AND THAT WHY LOUELA GETS ALL THE CHAMPIONS IN AND THERE FAMILY NOT JUST THE RACERS FACTS ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albear Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 It always amazes me the stick they take .......... but they shift most of what they put up. It's a bit like the Sun newspaper back in the 80's you used to be frowned on if you were buying the sun, porn pics on page 3!!!!! Unyet they overtook the Mirror as the most popular non broadsheet, people would deny theu bought it, someone had to?? Louella I think is the same they get castigated but someone keeps them going. Ask Brian Denney what he thinks because I beleive that's where the majority of his birds have been coming from for the last quarter century. There are faults with them but not different to any others, but as with everything, it's your choice . I bought some older stock last year at £35 a piece and some failed to fill, I got shot of and they are no more but no complaints from me because if they had filled I would have had some winners! But I also bought some on here and they did the same, took a chance on 10 & 7yo 's at more money than louella. If you don't fancy a punt at £100 cause you think they are rubbish fair enough. But I don't think anyone should think Louella would want to sell you rubbish deliberatley, they would never survive and they are the only ones I think in this country that have suvived what 6 decades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albear Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Whilst on me high horse I would like to say I think they did a fantastic job for the working class fancier in this country. I remember the first time i saw them in the mid/late seventies one of their away sales at cascade, they brought the Lefebre's down with them what a mark they have made in the valleys since winning from 60 -600. In my club there were no foreign birds only home grown (I must admit I wish we still had the home grwon but that's another story) they brought for the ordinary guy top quality birds at a fraction of the price you would pay elsewhere. And every man and his dog has jumped on the commercial gravy train that they pioneered since. Have a look in the stud books of the 70's how many studs were advertising very few, now you've got studs, everywhere! Ad if I had the money and was in the market I'd take a punt on some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
demolition man Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Look at it this way louella purchases hundreds of birds a year. most are untested and they get them back to louella and pair them up to produce more untried birds these birds then produce your youngsters you buy. Most of the old birds they are selling off probably havent produced that much over the years. You dont see birds like invincible spirit up for sale as an old bird do you. They are only getting rid of the rubbish thats not producing anything, if that was not the case why isnt the superstars they buy up for sale when they are past it. Thats just my theory and thats the reason why i would never buy from a stud like that. I don't know if its true for every one but louella purchased my mates NFC winner and when it reached 10 years old he give it back to him and it still filled its eggs. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjloft Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 When sales lists appear on their site its not long before "SOLD" appears - someone near you likes the birds!!!!! There is a wee bit of snobbery in our sport and JMO I believe they dont always get the credit they deserve. I believe no matter the size of stud the % of good birds remains the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Whilst on me high horse I would like to say I think they did a fantastic job for the working class fancier in this country. I remember the first time i saw them in the mid/late seventies one of their away sales at cascade, they brought the Lefebre's down with them what a mark they have made in the valleys since winning from 60 -600. In my club there were no foreign birds only home grown (I must admit I wish we still had the home grwon but that's another story) they brought for the ordinary guy top quality birds at a fraction of the price you would pay elsewhere. And every man and his dog has jumped on the commercial gravy train that they pioneered since. Have a look in the stud books of the 70's how many studs were advertising very few, now you've got studs, everywhere! Ad if I had the money and was in the market I'd take a punt on some well said that man thay will never cost you a kings ransome because thay have paid that thay will give a littel back to the woking class not like the small studs you can keep paying up in instalments just like money lenders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanarkshire lad Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I think LPW puts "fashionable" strains within the reach of most fanciers, you can currently get Lindelauf, van Lint & vd Rhee 6 for £150 - how much would other studs ask for these? Dont you think that louella create the fashion themselves through advertising for there own benefit.Louella are a huge buisness concern And to think they have the ordinary fancier as there first priority is nonesense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Dont you think that louella create the fashion themselves through advertising for there own benefit.Louella are a huge buisness concern And to think they have the ordinary fancier as there first priority is nonesense. jim did you and your mate not by a doo that bred good doos from thare cris devlen ;D ;D ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Just been on the louella site i see some old pigeons for sale at 100 pounds each with no guarantee does that mean you pay a hundred pounds plus carriage to find out the old thing is infertile and thats it; your hard earned cash down the tubes.If thats the way it works then i think its a bad advert for louella. I think you have a personal problem, or at least a dislike for Louella. What they are saying is simply. Buy in good faith and they are pretty sure you are getting a good deal, plus a chance of putting some good 'Blood' in your loft. Seems reasonable, and a sensible realistic add to me. But no one wants unhappy buyers such as yourself now do they? So they hopefully put off you prospective dismissive grunters ... Yes they know you will then not buy, but still have uncalled for side swipes. Why else would you pour scorn upon them and try to tarnish a reputable good stud. Yes a very genuine stud who have over the years brought renowned world class pigeons within the working class prices!!! :-/ :-/ :o Or at least their offspring. Don't know what axe you have to grind, but you could have easierly have spoken and got satisfaction with Louella at any time. Could understand it if they held you to ransome and bled the money out of you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjloft Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I agree they are a business and dont begrudge them gaining from the the cash, work and effort they have put into the business - but JMO it is the guy like myself who has other calls on his cash who benefits from their supermarket approach to selling birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakes Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 i brought 2 kirkpatrick yb's from kevin glover of here there parents was from mazzeralla's and im very happy with them not been raced yet but done me proud when training from 50+ miles there still in my loft and looking forward to getting them on transporter come 2010 all the best k.baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanarkshire lad Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 jim did you and your mate not by a doo that bred good doos from thare cris devlen ;D ;D ;D Ive had a lot of success with pigeons from louella iin days gone by.The lanark hen was a lefebre dhaenen that i bought from louella in a batch of six as a latebred she was first lanarkshire fed 11,ooo doos and by the way i got three together that day i was also third thaT B CULLEN SPLIT THEM WITH A LOUELLA VERHEYE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac1 Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 the new place i have is full of louellas stock birds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksafc Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I read the pedigree.What iam saying is this louella have a futtin cheek to ask the fancier to take that chance for a start the pigeon should be replaced if its infertile end of story. I'm sure theywill replace it if you pay the difference between the hundred quid and the true value, you're taking the chance cos youre getting them cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Quoted from slinky slitheroe I read the pedigree.What iam saying is this louella have a futtin cheek to ask the fancier to take that chance for a start the pigeon should be replaced if its infertile end of story. May be the shoe on the other foot.... Think if takes a punt on great birds for a fraction of it's true worth when a mite younger I'd- like mostwould think you'd ' .... have a futtin cheek to ask Louella to take it back'! What I;m say is 'The PUNTER shouldn't have taken the punt in the first place'!!! :B :B :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micci Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 you took the words right out of my mouth Roland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bakes Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 i pop onto louella alot to look at birds for sale always liked the look of birds up for sale and like ive said in my other post very happy with what i bought from louella stock ie ped side of some of my kirkpatrick. gala red sky son of stan the man 14x 1st another half sister to 45500 bred sire of 8th open bicc barcelona 2003 2005 which inturn bred 95th open nfc dax 6th open bicc pau peds do look brillent but end of the day down to me to try and get the best from them all the best k.baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micci Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 I bought four Andre Van Bruaenes in 1988 from Louella for a client, and they was responsible for 5x Lerwick winners on the trot in good competitio From 95 miles to 519 miles, Cost £3,000, you gets what you pay for!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonworld Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Ive had a lot of success with pigeons from louella iin days gone by.The lanark hen was a lefebre dhaenen that i bought from louella in a batch of six as a latebred she was first lanarkshire fed 11,ooo doos and by the way i got three together that day i was also third thaT B CULLEN SPLIT THEM WITH A LOUELLA VERHEYE. am not on about days gon by but not that lomg ago so how can you sat there crap or words to that afect ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micci Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 Good Buisness men dont gamble on crap, years ago 'or today!!! thats why they are where they are today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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