Blue Pied just landed - Wet Green smelly dropping

[vanreets]

 

 

;D yes mate i hope you would, then i could give you the bill to disinfect my loft and try to give you a few tips about basic pigeon health  ;D

 

i bet it is not even ill if you had flown miles and had eaten grass just too live i think you would look abit sh+t

[Guest joshdonlan]

 

i bet it is not even ill if you had flown miles and had eaten grass just too live i think you would look abit sh+t

 

It may well be fine, but im not prepared to take that risk. And as to flying miles, what distance would an 09 bird be flying? Maybe 100 at most? Would they need to be eating grass to survive? Id expect most birds to make that distance on the day.

 

I have reportred strays in the past, and all have been treated in the same way as they looked healthy. They were put in the isolation pen down the bottom of the garden and given feed and water then reported.

[greenlands]

It looks like you made your mind up before you put the post on the site.

[gagums]

wots the ring number if u have it.i no alot of clubs had bad losses down ere.not many reported i try and help any stray regardles and all ways report them.

[walterbmasson]

 

 

joshdonlan i havent got any problems that is why i posted about the bird a bird that eats grass before going into a loft there is a bit of true grit every boady has lost old favourites good honest birds and would like any fancier to give there bird a helping hand all decent fanciers i know has a stray box to get them fit to go home and i can assure with a bit of loving care it will find its own way home and they will let you know when ready to go  and by the way if we had to rough it like some of our birds i would hate to know what we would pass ( SO GIVE THE BIRD ALL THE HELP IT NEEDS REMBER THE OLD SAYING WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND ) SO IF THATS A PROBLEM I WILL ALWAYS HAVE IT AND IAM NOT SORRY IVE GOTIT EITHER

[blaz]

give the bird a bit grub and shelter . what goes a round always comes around.

[robbiedoo.]

it could be somebodys favourite doo me i would catch it and feed and water it and try and get it back to it owner .you here of some fanciers driving 100s of miles to get there doos back so give the doo a chance you dont know whats happened to it .

[Guest joshdonlan]

No not 1 bit. I was thinking as soon as i saw the green droppings to get rid of it straight away, but from some of the constructive advice from fanciers like the fifer etc im now going to put it in a cage away from my birds if it doesnt clear by tomorrow.  

[Guest joshdonlan]

wots the ring number if u have it.i no alot of clubs had bad losses down ere.not many reported i try and help any stray regardles and all ways report them.

 

The birds not been caught yet, but if i do catch it ill post the number  

[Guest joshdonlan]

 

joshdonlan i havent got any problems that is why i posted about the bird a bird that eats grass before going into a loft there is a bit of true grit every boady has lost old favourites good honest birds and would like any fancier to give there bird a helping hand all decent fanciers i know has a stray box to get them fit to go home and i can assure with a bit of loving care it will find its own way home and they will let you know when ready to go  and by the way if we had to rough it like some of our birds i would hate to know what we would pass ( SO GIVE THE BIRD ALL THE HELP IT NEEDS REMBER THE OLD SAYING WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND ) SO IF THATS A PROBLEM I WILL ALWAYS HAVE IT AND IAM NOT SORRY IVE GOTIT EITHER

 

 

Okay mate, it sounded like you were having ago about me not getting it into my loft, which i will not do! I have fed and watered it (not like it needed it with the rain  ;D) and if it doesnt clear it will go in a cage like any other stray i get and then reported.

 

The only reason for me posting was with all the diseases going around and wet green droppings. I have heard some fanciers say get rid straight away.  

 

 

 

[Guest joshdonlan]

give the bird a bit grub and shelter . what goes a round always comes around.

 

Fed and watered, but out on roof. I havent managed to catch it and certainly not opening up the loft for it   If i catch it it will go in cage at the bottom of garden away from my doos.

[Guest joshdonlan]

it could be somebodys favourite doo me i would catch it and feed and water it and try and get it back to it owner .you here of some fanciers driving 100s of miles to get there doos back so give the doo a chance you dont know whats happened to it .

 

Will doo   lol

 

 

[Guest]

I found this information on the Australian Pigeon Company website which may help you decide what course of action to take.    The last few sentences are particularly relevant.

  

http://www.auspigeonco.com.au/Articles/Dropping_In_Race_Season.html

 

Green droppings

The main factor affecting the colour of a pigeon’s dropping is what it has eaten. Pigeons digest many of the pigments found in their food rather poorly and so these pass relatively unaltered through the system and colour the dropping. In this way, birds eating, for example, a lot of pink minerals, can be expected to have brownish droppings. Also birds eating greenish grain (eg dun peas) or supplemented with green vegetables (such as silver beet) or free-ranging and pecking at grass will have more green droppings. Green can, however, alert the fancier to the possibility of a problem. This is because green droppings can occur with bowel disease. The green colour comes from bile, which in birds is a brilliant fluorescent green. Bile is a digestive enzyme produced by the liver. After a number of metabolic steps, it passes from the liver down a duct (called the bile duct) into the bowel where it aids the digestive process. After digestion in the bowel, components of the bile are reabsorbed through the bowel wall for reuse. If the bowel is diseased, this process cannot occur normally, with the result that more green bile stays in the bowel and is passed in the dropping, resulting in a green dropping. Green droppings, therefore, can alert the fancier to the possibility of bowel disease. Usually, microscopic examination of a faecal smear will show the cause. There is always some bile left, which when mixed with the rest of the dropping, gives it a greenish hue. Although in the early stages of bowel disease birds can produce a firm dropping that is green, as a general rule such droppings are associated with the ingestion of non-digestible green pigments. It is always safest, however, to have a vet or technician microscopically examine a few green droppings to check that everything is okay. Because inflamed bowels not only absorb bile but also water poorly, green droppings that are also watery do, however, almost invariably point to a problem. The only notable exception here would be the droppings of recently returned race birds. Because these birds have not eaten during the race, their droppings are made up of urine, bile and bowel mucus and appear as a clear fluid ring with a small central amount of green mucousy material and white paste (the solid urine). In healthy birds, once in the loft and having eaten, their droppings should start to become normal within a few hours and unless the race was particularly taxing, should be completely normal by the next morning.

[Guest joshdonlan]

I found this information on the Australian Pigeon Company website which may help you decide what course of action to take.    The last few sentences are particularly relevant.

  

http://www.auspigeonco.com.au/Articles/Dropping_In_Race_Season.html

 

Green droppings

The main factor affecting the colour of a pigeon’s dropping is what it has eaten. Pigeons digest many of the pigments found in their food rather poorly and so these pass relatively unaltered through the system and colour the dropping. In this way, birds eating, for example, a lot of pink minerals, can be expected to have brownish droppings. Also birds eating greenish grain (eg dun peas) or supplemented with green vegetables (such as silver beet) or free-ranging and pecking at grass will have more green droppings. Green can, however, alert the fancier to the possibility of a problem. This is because green droppings can occur with bowel disease. The green colour comes from bile, which in birds is a brilliant fluorescent green. Bile is a digestive enzyme produced by the liver. After a number of metabolic steps, it passes from the liver down a duct (called the bile duct) into the bowel where it aids the digestive process. After digestion in the bowel, components of the bile are reabsorbed through the bowel wall for reuse. If the bowel is diseased, this process cannot occur normally, with the result that more green bile stays in the bowel and is passed in the dropping, resulting in a green dropping. Green droppings, therefore, can alert the fancier to the possibility of bowel disease. Usually, microscopic examination of a faecal smear will show the cause. There is always some bile left, which when mixed with the rest of the dropping, gives it a greenish hue. Although in the early stages of bowel disease birds can produce a firm dropping that is green, as a general rule such droppings are associated with the ingestion of non-digestible green pigments. It is always safest, however, to have a vet or technician microscopically examine a few green droppings to check that everything is okay. Because inflamed bowels not only absorb bile but also water poorly, green droppings that are also watery do, however, almost invariably point to a problem. The only notable exception here would be the droppings of recently returned race birds. Because these birds have not eaten during the race, their droppings are made up of urine, bile and bowel mucus and appear as a clear fluid ring with a small central amount of green mucousy material and white paste (the solid urine). In healthy birds, once in the loft and having eaten, their droppings should start to become normal within a few hours and unless the race was particularly taxing, should be completely normal by the next morning.

 

 

Good post  

 

[walterbmasson]

 

 

JOSHDONLAN IVE HAD SOME 600+MILERS WELL UP IN OPEN FIRST THING THEY DO IS GREEN DROPPINGS SOMETIMES YELLOW BUT ITS DOWN TO THE EFFORT THE BIRDS PUT IN GETTING HOME I NEVER KEEP A STRAY IN THE LOFT I USE A WIRE MESH BOX NO VERMIN CAN GET IN PLENTY FRESH AIR A WE BIT OF HONEY OR GLUCOSE FOR A DAY SOUND CORN FOR A WEEK THEN ON TO THE TRANSPORTERS STRAY BASKET I WOULD SAY THE STRAYS IVE SEEN COMING FROM OUR FED MEMBERS 99% WOULD GET HOME

[DODC]

I had a young bird with the same symptoms (the bird had been eating grass) which I lost at a toss on 13th July the bird was picked up in a school playground close to death.  I would like to thank M Shields of East Wemyss who kindly looked after it, I received it back yesterday a bit down but in good health.  Thanks to him.

[mark]

if i was you do not let it your lofts  :-/  

 

thats a bit harsh leighton, there is nothing wrong with putting him in a box with a bit of light feed and water more than likely flown out poor bugger.

 

[pjc]

i think this thread just goes to show the state of this sport!

Clearly many are not willing to help a fellow fanciers bird at all!

All I hope is that when they lose birds they do not come on complaining they don't get birds reported, why? cos there are others like you that just bin other people birds etc without giving them a chance!

I hope those so called fanciers are prowd of there actions!

 

And again we wonder why the public have such a low opinion of us!

[Guest joshdonlan]

I hope your not meaning me by that Phil?  ;D

[Guest bakes]

i had 3 strays in other day siiting on my house roof managed to call them down  rang the owners all came to pick there birds up had a chat to them over a cuppa they all said i wish everyone else was so helpful doesnt take long out of your time to move the strays and give them some fresh water and some grub and give the owners a bell  

[Guest IB]

No as far as im concerned no birds are coming into my loft, especially with wet green droppings. From my eyes it seems that too many fanciers are sending unfit birds, this must be the 10th stray ive had this year.

 

Maybe too quick to condemn on limited information. A bird that has flown for some hours and has had nothing to eat or drink for longer, will pass less-than-perfect droppings on landing and for the first hour or so, its normal and not an indication of an unfit bird.

[nightshade]

i would allways get the bird in and feed and water and try get the bird back home as thats all the birds trying to do some people are soon wonting to get rid of them but are the first to moan when there birds are lost

[Guest Denny]

I am new to pigeons and I just love them and I took in a stray as I thought if it were my bird I would have like to think that someone would have taken in my tired, hungry and thirsty bird.  I kept the one that came in with my birds, separate = in a basket away from the others.  

 

There is no harm in resting and feeding a bird and keeping it separate from yours even if its kept in a shed or garage for a couple of days, at least you are giving it a chance to recuperate and get back up to strength.  As an 09 bird its still learning - it wont make the same mistake again no doubt if it survives and makes its way back home!

 

At least there are some on the forum that have the save the poor thing rather than suffer horrid fate.

[square_peg]

I am new to pigeons and I just love them and I took in a stray as I thought if it were my bird I would have like to think that someone would have taken in my tired, hungry and thirsty bird.  I kept the one that came in with my birds, separate = in a basket away from the others.  

 

There is no harm in resting and feeding a bird and keeping it separate from yours even if its kept in a shed or garage for a couple of days, at least you are giving it a chance to recuperate and get back up to strength.  As an 09 bird its still learning - it wont make the same mistake again no doubt if it survives and makes its way back home!

 

At least there are some on the forum that have the save the poor thing rather than suffer horrid fate.

 

thats the best way to deal with strays    get them in  then isolate  light feed and water      think there are plenty doos that have done ok after making a mistake

[flyingteessider]

Im a blue pied missing from saturday its amillion to one shot its mine but it could be,On the other hand i have a stray in my garage in a box reported in ,the best food and glucose ive give it in order for it to be in the best possible condition for when it goes back to its owner so he can have it on the road almost strate away ,thats the one common courtesy i think one pigeon fancier should have for another