STB Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 Herpes virusesHerpes viruses (Colimbid herpesvirus 1 / CoHV-1) have always existed in pigeons and probably 60% to 70% of todays pigeons are infected. With the increasing sales and purchases of pigeons, these percentages will probably even increase in the future. If a pigeon is infected with herpes it does not mean the pigeon is ill. The animals live with it. Until now there have been hardly any problems with herpes in old pigeons, for the youngsters however the situation is different for several years. Yellow deposits in the beak, elongated like chewing gum, usually in side of the cheeks and sometimes in the back of the throat, are infallible visible signs of a herpes infection. However, these yellowish deposits are often confused with trichomonads or pox. Young pigeons with these yellow deposits will start to rattle after a few days (they breather heavily with every movement) and sit apathetically on the floor. Everyone should have now realised that this is not the so called “Young Bird Sicknessâ€. After several days, these youngsters then suffer a painful death by suffocation as the herpes virus attacks the lungs/ In this phase, when the yellowish deposits are visible in the beak then no antibiotic can help anymore. In some cases only a couple of young birds in the flock will die, but sometimes it could be 20, 30 or 40 young birds that will die. Actually, only a Paramyxo-Herpes vaccine can help but unfortunately it has not been approved in Germany and is therefore not available to German fanciers. The heavy mortality of pigeons that are infected with the herpes virus, usually ceases within a week after Paramyxo-Herpes vaccination. Practice has shown that boosting (re-vaccination) is not required, even if recommended by the vaccine producers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.belgicadeweerd.com/en/test-pmv-herpesvaccin/?fbclid=IwAR19C3lSFv8qXkeRIN4B3VgCrMq-l8r3dTUwJEm3NbmsAKIhVuSWwAjBaK4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB Posted February 24, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 https://www.belgicadeweerd.com/en/test-pmv-herpesvaccin/?fbclid=IwAR19C3lSFv8qXkeRIN4B3VgCrMq-l8r3dTUwJEm3NbmsAKIhVuSWwAjBaK4 Plenty of that on the go nowadays Lindsay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDCHEQHEN Posted February 24, 2020 Report Share Posted February 24, 2020 The vaccine hasn't been approved in the UK either, but some people illegally import it and try to sell it. De Weerd doesn't believe the vaccine works......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Lindsay de weerd has not got a licence for any vaccines at all, he only pushes his products his para stop but ain't any better than baytril, a splif is illegal over here, yet you can still get it, if you want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STB Posted February 25, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 The vaccine hasn't been approved in the UK either, but some people illegally import it and try to sell it. De Weerd doesn't believe the vaccine works.........Don't need to import vaccine its easily available at many pigeon outlets UK and Ireland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Lindsay de weerd has not got a licence for any vaccines at all, he only pushes his products his para stop but ain't any better than baytril, a splif is illegal over here, yet you can still get it, if you want itI basically put the link on for fanciers to read the final comment.I keep as far away from vaccines and ati this and anti that,but Mercasystem appears to be a popular site with some ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roland Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 The main problem is, I believe, is the immunity is lacking. A second element then takes hold to the detriment of the bird. Immunity and constitutions are wavering too much in oh too many lofts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Lindsay do you use a vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenlands Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 Lindsay do you use a vaccinePMV only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mambo Posted February 25, 2020 Report Share Posted February 25, 2020 PMV only You must know you can get baytril in a vaccine from the vet, yet de weerd will no give you one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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