Good birds at a Good Price

[swilcox]

Joe61

 

They can be sold in both countries and probaly will but when the guys told me about them i thought it would be something nice to offer the lads on PB as to me they are priced just right considering it hard times at the moment.  

 

I have many friends and customers on this site so when i see something that may benefit those people then why not!!! P.S. Im not actually making anything on these birds just helping out.

[swilcox]

For Any Chelsea fans there are a dozen Italian Birds including some darks and grizzles, these are from Carbanarra who enters lots of Races around the world and does well some have pedigrees, these are really smart birds and again are available £20-25 a pigeon.

 

Thats something to get the lads down the club chatting when they see them in your stock loft ;D

[mark]

stuart nothing unterward meant i just like to pick my own would never buy 6from louella  im happy with the cock of youers who would not be sammys

 

 

you have the chance to have the birds picked by raymond moleveld  his choice  i know how i would choose.

[Michael J Burden]

Well done Stu,

It is a shame so many are left behind etc. I would have some but have too many now.

 

Any funny coloured ones there :X

[mark]

stuart nothing unterward meant i just like to pick my own would never buy 6from louella  im happy with the cock of youers who would not be sammys

 

 

you have the chance to have the birds picked by raymond moleveld  his choice  i know how i would choose.

[ChrisMaidment08]

so i will answer you again as last one removed who.s he

[pigeonscout]

Stuart did I read somewhere that the lofts where closed down for 2 months in the midle of racing because of sickness? If so can you give me some info on what this sickness was.

[swilcox]

Hi Pigeonscout

 

The young bird type virus was contacted by one section right at the start and those birds were culled by order of the dutch government and they then ordered a  period of isolation and a test for the remaining birds.

 

The that start training were tested clear and fit and healthy. The birds now look out of this world.

[Guest bigda]

so i will answer you again as last one removed who.s he

 

are you dumb or what he the guy that knows a good bird to keep for  ;D :o  him self and sell the rest  

[ChrisMaidment08]

stuart are these birds that were mentioned in book mate just got of phone told him about the forign ones??????  not sent or trained due to rest ill but in same loft

[ChrisMaidment08]

 

are you dumb or what he the guy that knows a good bird to keep for  ;D :o  him self and sell the rest  

  i pick birds i like not what others like if rubbish my choice not theres

 

if in one loft they are good but still rather pick my own

[Guest bigda]

  i pick birds i like not what others like if rubbish my choice not theres

 

if in one loft they are good but still rather pick my own

 

so your wanting all birds brought over then to wales ;D

[ChrisMaidment08]

now if stuart was doing that well as long as healthy ;D ;D

[Guest bigda]

the euro loft is empty could house there maybe

[shotgun tim]

stuart did you get my pm?

[Roland]

Let's cut to the chase here. Never mind whether the birds are brilliant or a cull.

Most know, or at very least are aware, that a One Loft set up was closed down as mention in the BHW I believe where a fair few, 1/6th I believe didn't even go ... maybe be just one in 6. etc. because of AIR carrying viruses and others such as the Para and PHar etc. Therefore many were not in the races for a starter. Seems this lot now for sell. So they weren’t lost, or achieved any ratings, as they didn’t go. Is this the case?

For it seems that these are now being offered as being over it. Is this true Stu, and are these the very same birds.

If so, what are the guarantees that they are still carriers ... many must know that carriers don't show signs often etc. etc. but they pass on, or can still infect others.

As I am not interested in any way shape or form, I shalln't be bothering to comment on this subject again. But feel that if any truths here, that they should be sorted and genuine answers to sensible realistic questions should be answered.

Ok so there may be some lofts that are carriers etc. etc in our home town ... but that doesn't, in my book, mean I have to bring in outside problems if they exist. And there is certainly a lot of smoke in this regards, and many willy - nillying and pussy footing around this hearsay etc.

Am I concern? Well not from buying them myself... but am if someone is entering these birds youngsters in my club, Fed race crates. Hence I feel that this matter be laid to rest by some self right answers by Stu etc.

If I am wrong, no harm done, if right, then at least the cards are on the table.

So sooner mended lest said eh!

[pigeonscout]

Stuart did I read somewhere that the lofts where closed down for 2 months in the midle of racing because of sickness? If so can you give me some info on what this sickness was.

[ChrisMaidment08]

if these birds are from that loft the there health has to be brought into question as i know birds culled at lofts but others recovered and indeeed are picture but future health young is suspect as birds that recover are carriers for up to three years

[Guest]

Im sorry but i cant just sit here and not say anything but i pm stuart about these birds the other day because i had read about this illness that had caused confinement he did reply stating that the loft was the very same however the goverment had over reacted and that it was only a mild virus or something like that and that the loft had 6 sections and only 1 section affected now the problem i have with this is when the birds were first posted for sale this information should have been made available to the potential buyers to give them the chance to decide for themselves if they wanted to take the gamble (although i dont feel they should be allowed in the country jmo) Now i have been in touch with a well known Dutch fancier (i will not disclose his name as it is not my place to do this without his permission which i do not have) i asked about this illness his replie was Ecoli-Bacteria,Adeno Herpes Virus Paratyphus i cant tell you 100% whos right or wrong Do your homework before you buy

[swilcox]

The pigeons that remained were tested, and tested clear, they were neither invected or were they carriers and that happened 6 months ago and since then the pigeons have been vigourously trained and raced and may i add under the watchfull eye of government vets they showed no sign of stress at all.

 

What happened to the Dutch Open has happened to many one loft races where you have a high number of young, the difference is the government became involved and quaritined all the birds not because it was some Super Specail Virus but because thats what they do with all sick livestock.

 

Tony W as i told you all the pigeons that remain have been tested, trained and raced. The 1st to 200th have already been sold without a problem, i have merely given the members of Pigeon Basics the chance to buy some of the 200th - 400th birds are they are sat in the Dutch Open Loft eating corn and  some of them are real beauties.

[swilcox]

Roland, i will again state that the birds that i offered finished from 201st to 400th in the final race.

 

I get the feeling i will end today again wishing i never bothered. I dont know Pigeon Basics is a funny place!

[Michael J Burden]

Roland, i will again state that the birds that i offered finished from 201st to 400th in the final race.

 

I get the feeling i will end today again wishing i never bothered. I dont know Pigeon Basics is a funny place!

 

Pigeon fanciers in general Stu

 

 

[bewted]

heres a chance for fanciers to get some decent birds from a man with a 100% reputation to hold up in the pigeon world,,,,,,does every body think stu would sell you birds of doubt with his reputation at stake,i dont think so !!!

 

                    most fanciers moan at the price of birds,now heres your chance to get the goods and put your money where your mouths are,i dont know stu personaly.but,from what i know of him on here,he is doing you all a favour to help you fanciers,,,,,yet,like most fanciers,,,whinge,moan,groan and do naff all to help yourselves !!!

 

         and you same fanciers wonder why the sport is in decline !!

 

I AM NOT GOING TO GET IN ANY SLANGING MATCH ON THIS SUBJECT,JUST THINK BEFORE YOU ALL JUMP THE GUN FIRST !!!

 

ps,,,,not getting at no one in particular,just voicing my thoughts on this !!!

[Michael J Burden]

2nd that Bewted.

[Guest pigeondave]

i bought some jan ardeen hens of stu a couple of years ago.and i must say the quality shown through when i opened the box.i dont know why there so much talk.you takes your chances on them.good luck with sale mate.