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I love the sky light just above trap good thinking.

What will you use to cover windows and I love the sky light just about trap good thinking.

Blank eggs or no eggs? or did the young hatch and die?

Try swaping them so you have two small in one nest and two big in another nest.

Would it be safe to let another old bird feed the young bird and transfer different micro-organisms the young bird was not protected against? If a young bird gets its immune system from egg and then again from milk would it be getting a double strength immune systems if you switched the eggs one from its parents from egg and one from milk of forester parents?

Antibodies against various microbes with which the breeding pigeon was confronted are deposited in the egg yolk and used by the developing youngster. Antibodies also pass via the crop milk to the young pigeon after it has hatched, similar to the way antibodies in colostrum are transferred to new-born mammals. Some parallels to mammals can be drawn: There is a limited and short time period during which the antibodies in the crop milk escape digestion and can be taken up directly by the circulation. Feeding crop milk after this time period has elapsed will not transfer any immunity to the bird because the antibodies present in the crop milk are digested by the now older pigeon. The adult animal can only develop resistance to the micro-organisms with which it was confronted at some time and against which it had to develop immunity by manufacturing antibodies. The adult pigeon cannot put antibodies into the crop milk which it does not have.

The immune system gave to the young bird from parents when feeding comes from pigeon milk and is not given when pumping corn. Are the first round of young birds better because the hen had a long rest and was able to put a lot of goodness into the first round of eggs?

Looking at the sport in Holland is there any fanciers there who use conventional clocks? So I think it safe to say conventional clocks will be a thing of the past. I also think that it is wrong for a club to decide not to use ETS. If the RPRA have a rule saying its members can use ETS then all members of the RPRA have the right to use it. I do not see how a club can make a rule that is in direct contradiction of RPRA rules. Could a club make a rule saying that only one member can race mark the birds and that there is no need for 5 members to be present? No as that would be breaking the RPRA rules. Not letting a member use ETS would also be breaking the rules.

They will leave the nest when old enough and yes you can race then to the same section as they where born.

You can buy cams with zoom may cost a bit more but may work out cheaper than extra cables. A cheap home cctv may be better.

How has he raced in the last 10 years?

Has the flying vet ever won a race?

There is more than one way or right way to do anything in pigeons, that is what makes this sport so interesting. I rare great young birds not in my view but in everyone that has ever seen my young birds. I have seen great young birds in a number of lofts all fed and treated different than mine so how can I say my way is best? I cannot all I can say is it works for me. The proper way to rare a young bird would be to let nature take its course and leave it in nest until it has the confidence to leave the nest and go it alone. For us racing pigeon men this is not always what is best for the old birds so we take the young away early. There can be a down side to having all the young on the floor getting fed by any old bird that wants to feed it. The old bird that likes to fed all the young comes under stress and when the stress goes up so does its cocci and canker count and anything else it has underlying. As I have said before when I am moving young birds from first round I leave them in nest until they are well feathered and feeding. The 2nd round I need to move early and I move one young bird with the hen into young bird section so that the hen does not have a 3rd round of eggs this I do with stock birds. The racing birds first round get moved early so I can time the 2nd round of eggs so that the cocks are only sitting 8 to 10 days then split two weeks before the first race. The best way to do anything in this sport is one that works and is best for you. I do not see the point of putting young birds on the floor of the breeding loft for a week before moving them to the young bird loft. Some young bird will be younger than others and so would need more time with old birds. The old birds will start driving to nest so the hen will be trying to feed young as the cock is driving her. Then your hens will come down on eggs at different times. If you take the hens away with one young bird and put them into young bird loft then the cock is not wasting energy driving and with a big young one to feed in the nest will have an even stronger bond to that box. The hens with the other young bird is not getting drove to nest and about to lay so she to has more energy. Then when all the young are old enough to look after themselves the young with the cocks are moved to the young bird loft and the hens with the young birds can be put back with cocks. That way they will all come down on eggs within two days of each other.

Does the loft have a website?

Bruno when you say, single rearing is , in your opinion, is really the only way we can improve on nature. I would say when we breed in winter we are going against nature. So I would agree with you and say the single reared in a cold loft without heating is getting the best start in life.

I was not knocking single reared young birds as when it comes to feeding solid food then the single will be the best looked after. It will also be easer for the parents to cover and keep warm a single that is why you never get fret marks on the 3rd flight of the single reared young bird. There comes a time when the young birds are to big to cover but they do not yet have enough feather to keep themselves warm and it is at this time they get stressed and it shows with fret marks on the 3rd flight. You will never get this with summer reared, in lofts that have heating or single reared.

Most will feed light from sunday to wed afternoon then go on to racing mix so how do you feed if they have young in the nest?

How can we tell for sure that a single pigeon gets double the amount? Could be that they only get the amount they can digest. I think nature would have it that the parents produce all the milk the two young birds can digest. If there is only one young it will still only get all it can digest. The crop of a young bird on milk never goes empty so it is always getting what in can digest no more no less. Do single reared pigeons become or best are they any better than its brothers and sister that where not single reared?

What is there to stop someone connecting another plate to the system and putting it where they want. Take the lead out of the one that is sealed and connecting it to one out side the loft?

What is good for humans is not always good for pigeons. Humans can digest animal and vegetable protein. Pigeons digest vegetable protein and are not very good at digesting animal protein so it can do them more harm that good.

Just put a rubber band round the last 5 flights to hold them as one flight.

Does anyone know if they are to make rules as to where the plate can be placed. Can they be placed under the landing board or do they have to be inside the loft? In other words under the landing board outside the loft or inside the trap?

What way water goes down the plug hole depends on where you live. If you live north of the equator it drains in a clockwise whirlpool and if you live south of the equator it drains down anti clockwise. It has to do with the way the earth spins

I feed twice per day 25% after morning fly round loft and then back to 75% from training toss in afternoon. Young birds I feed 25% when I take them of the dark then 1 hour later let them out to fly. In the afternoon I let them out to fly again to take the steam out of them and then take them on a training toss. They race home to the 75% afternoon feed and that is 1 hour 30 min's before I put them back on dark.

How do they know they are stiff and not just wanting to rest?