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Poll Result from: BBC Peregrine / Pigeon Chase 7/6/04 Poll ran 1st - 7th September 2005: Yes I saw the Programme - (8 votes) Thought it a homing pigeon? - (7 votes) No I didnt think it was a homing pigeon - (1 votes) Did the chase upset you? - (5 votes) No the chase didn’t upset me - (3 votes) Got over seeing it? - (0 votes) No I haven't got over seeing it - (8 votes)

Photo mentioned above ^^

Lots of thankyous, ready? Thanks to all the members , making this forum what it is (IMHO pretty good ). Thanks to everyone who has contributed to the site in anyway, thats, the members again (whooh), article contributors, mini-site admins, etc, etc, without you all we wouldnt be half of what we are (head round that one at this time of night :) Thanks to Ross who is a great help to me when something's not working right and I need someone to bounce ideas off, and of course for hosting the Chat Room for us Thanks to our adveristers (click their links ) and also to Ruter / Tauris for sponsoring us for the last #many# years and of course everyone else (did I mention the members ;D)... Webmaster

Thanks all. I've been busy with other work this last week, and have just got on and seen this very kind gesture, thankyou . I will be intouch with clockman to see how things are going A few queries no doubt a few of you will have; the website is running OK as we are at the moment, however I can assure you that all money raised will be spent in a couple of ways; updgrading the quality of services we already offer, the ability to introduce new services (free of charge - as always - to fanciers), to promote the website and the pigeon sport to new people. I would like to suggest that we donate half of the money to Pigeon Fanciers Medical Research. A cause that we may all benefit from one day. Richard

The Grand Final is online now

Grand Final The first two birds in each class have been brought to the top table for the grand final. (In the YB Racers class there was a tie for 2nd - both birds are in this class.) Bird 1 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/13.jpg Bird 2 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/7.jpg Bird 3 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/10.jpg Bird 4 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/15.jpg Bird 5 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/18.jpg Bird 6 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/24.jpg Bird 7 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/26.jpg Bird 8 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/46.jpg Bird 9 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/42.jpg Bird 10 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/50.jpg Bird 11 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/52.jpg Bird 12 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/69.jpg Bird 13 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/67.jpg Please make your vote for the corresponding bird in the poll above. Poll will close Wednesday 28th December midnight GMT. Webmaster

Class Results I'd like to thank everyone for making this class a huge success; and its well done to Jimmy_White for taking the win. Class Winner Pair 5 - 17 votes - Jimmy_White http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/69.jpg Second Pair 3 - 16 votes - Hjaltland http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/67.jpg Third Pair 10 - 14 votes - Hyacinth http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/74.jpg In Bird Number Order Only Bird 1 - Chatrace http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/65.jpg Bird 2 - Heathcote http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/66.jpg Bird 4 - Snowy http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/68.jpg Bird 6 - Westy http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/70.jpg Bird 7 - The_Fifer http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/71.jpg Bird 8 - Maddy706 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/72.jpg Bird 9 - Big_Al http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/73.jpg Thanks to everyone who took part, by entering or voting. The final class, is the Grand Final - the top 2 in each class take to the top table tomorrow night.

Forwarded to me: "clockwoman before the run for cancer research"

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Photos forwarded to me by Big_Blue

Pair 1 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/65.jpg Pair 2 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/66.jpg Pair 3 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/67.jpg Pair 4 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/68.jpg Pair 5 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/69.jpg Pair 6 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/70.jpg Pair 7 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/71.jpg Pair 8 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/72.jpg Pair 9 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/73.jpg Pair 10 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/74.jpg Please make your vote for the corresponding bird in the poll above. Entrants, please do not notify anyone of which is you bird until the show poll is over, thanks. Webmaster

Rachel enjoying Disneyland, thanks to maddy for sending me the pictures.

Photos forwarded to me by J R Ramsey

Class Results I'd like to thank everyone for making this class a huge success; and its well done to Heathcote for taking the win. Class Winner Bird 3 - 14 votes - Heathcote http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/50.jpg Second Bird 5 - 13 votes - Hjaltland http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/52.jpg Third Bird 17 - 8 votes - Pigeon http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/64.jpg In Bird Number Order Only Bird 1 - Hyacinth http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/48.jpg Bird 2 - Bart http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/49.jpg Bird 4 - Snowy http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/51.jpg Bird 6 - Jimmy_White http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/53.jpg Bird 7 - Mealybar http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/54.jpg Bird 8 - Clockman http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/55.jpg Bird 9 - Carl http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/56.jpg Bird 10 - The_Fifer http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/57.jpg Bird 11 - MsPigeon http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/58.jpg Bird 12 - Roosterbill http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/59.jpg Bird 13 - Maddy706 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/60.jpg Bird 14 - Peckedhen http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/61.jpg Bird 15 - Chatrace http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/62.jpg Bird 16 - Barry http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/63.jpg The next class is Pairs, entries close midnight GMT tonight.

Photos from Clockman=> bez & dippy bez is 5 mounths & dippy 4year they are brothers.dippy on loft roof (clockmans cat deterant)

Pigeonbasics Online Show Entries are now open for the Pairs class; any age, racer or non-racer (Two seperate photo files can be accepted (one each bird) - will be merged to one by me for the class). To enter please send a photograph of the pigeon by email only to [mail]forum@pigeonbasics.com[/mail]. Also include your message forum username with your entry. There is a limit on entries; one entry per class per member. Please dont put anything in the background of the photos that could identify you the competitor. Also photos should be taken in the couple of days/week prior to the class being entered. The show is open to all forum members. Entries close midnight (GMT) Sunday 11th December 2005. Judging will start Monday 12th December by the way of member poll on this forum. This is the last open class of this series of online shows. Webmaster

Forgot to put it up, thanks for reminding me,,, its the pairs next week

Bird 1 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/48.jpg Bird 2 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/49.jpg Bird 3 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/50.jpg Bird 4 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/51.jpg Bird 5 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/52.jpg Bird 6 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/53.jpg Bird 7 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/54.jpg Bird 8 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/55.jpg Bird 9 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/56.jpg Bird 10 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/57.jpg Bird 11 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/58.jpg Bird 12 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/59.jpg Bird 13 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/60.jpg Bird 14 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/61.jpg Bird 15 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/62.jpg Bird 16 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/63.jpg Bird 17 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/64.jpg Please make your vote for the corresponding bird in the poll above. Entrants, please do not notify anyone of which is you bird until the show poll is over, thanks. Webmaster

Get your entries in by midnight (GMT) tonight

Class Results I'd like to thank everyone for making this class a huge success; and its well done to Bayview for taking the win. Class Winner Bird 5 - 24 votes - Bayview http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/46.jpg Second Bird 1 - 17 votes - Westy http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/42.jpg Equal Third Bird 3 - 5 votes - Glassfeather http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/44.jpg Equal Third Bird 4 - 5 votes - Hyacinth http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/45.jpg In Bird Number Order Only Bird 2 - Chatrace http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/43.jpg Bird 6 - Maddy706 http://www.pigeonbasics.com/forum/show/47.jpg The next class is Golden Oldies/Favourites, entries close midnight GMT tonight.

Photo forwarded to me by Shadow:

Message forwared to me from Jimmy_White for submission: Subject: eagle owls dear sir, after watching the most interesting programme on bbc2 on wed, about eagle owls. i am confused at the remark made by mr ewan ,rspb. concerning these birds being not wanted here as they dont belong here.and yet in the 2004 wild life and countryside act, section 27, it states that if a bird is born in the wild here, it certainly belongs here. i wonder if you would be kind enough to enlighten me,on this subject. thanking you , yours faithfully james white. ------------- Dear James, yes, I believe I can answer that question. Firstly, I'm not surprised at the confusion this programme has caused you, as it was not very clear. Just to clarify, not all birds that breed in the wild are 'wild birds' in the legal sense, and that being the case, one could in practice kill, harm, destroy etc. these species without fear of prosecution. Defra's policy concerning what constitutes a 'wild bird' and what doesn't, partly follows guidance from the BOU (British Ornithological Union). It is acknowledged that no genuine record of a truly wild Eagle Owl has appeared in Britain (i.e. its not on BOU's Category 'A','B' or 'C'). There are, of course, a few escapees/ released birds about the country, including the breeding birds shown in the programme, and there have been a number of historic claims (personally, I would regard these as largely referring to Long-eared Owl). So, from the BOU's perspective, these Eagle Owls are not 'wild birds'. Not looking good so far, however... The legal definition of a 'wild bird' is that provided in s.27 of the Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981. It is under this Law that I expect that Defra could accept that these Eagle Owls are 'wild birds'. This is because the definition of 'wild birds' was amended by the 'Wildlife & Countryside Act 1981 (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 2004', changing the definition to any species living anywhere within the EU (even if it doesn't occur in Britain !) So, although not native to Britain, but are widespread over Continental Europe, the Eagle Owls in Yorkshire are protected, and their eggs, nests etc. cannot be destroyed, damaged etc. - despite what Steve Dudley of the BTO said on the programme. These days, Britain plays host to thousands of non-native species, some detrimental (e.g. Japanese Knot-weed), some with mixed affects to our environment (e.g. Buddleia) and some are quite benign (e.g. Little Owls - yes, these were introduced !). This is why Law and policy has different attitudes to different species. At present, Defra does not have a policy on Eagle Owls, and I don't think Defra intends to make one soon. Doubtlessly interesting these Eagle Owls are, in the grand scheme of things they are considered to have negligible impact on the local environment, and consequently are not at the top of the list of things Defra needs to consider right now. Rest assured though, if anyone wished to take or harm the Eagle Owls, they would need to apply for a licence, possibly from our team (National Wildlife Management Team, under guidance from Defra policy, the European Wildlife Division). Killing, harming, damaging nests & eggs etc of these Eagle Owls could be considered an offence, and could result in a heavy fine or imprisonment. Hope this helps, Ivan Lakin (Wildlife Adviser & Ecologist) Defra's National Wildlife Management Team

I'll see if I can get up the loft to get the Christmas decorations out Now we're into December I think I can forgive myself for putting them up ;D

I deleted a certain topic due to it not being approriate for our friendly pigeon forum. I was requested by the author of another topic to delete that topic.

Pigeonbasics Online Show Entries are now open for the Golden Oldies/Favourite Birds Class (a retired favourite racer/show, a golden stockbird... use your imagination ). To enter please send a photograph of the pigeon by email only to [mail]forum@pigeonbasics.com[/mail]. Also include your message forum username with your entry. There is a limit on entries; one entry per class per member. Please dont put anything in the background of the photos that could identify you the competitor. Also photos should be taken in the couple of days/week prior to the class being entered. The show is open to all forum members. Entries close midnight (GMT) Sunday 4rd December 2005. Judging will start Monday 5th December by the way of member poll on this forum. Webmaster