FORGOT TO mention my first attempt at racing was in the 80s iwent down to louella with my father and he bought a pair of leopld cadous and a pair of muller janssens and again done done nothing with their offspring however my old man passed away a couple of years later and i had to part with the birds a friend of mine came and took some birds and one a tiny wee mealy hen bred winners for him [section winners] in the lanarkshire fed jansen if i had money to spare i would take the chance again [my birthday is due]so i hope my wife reads this as she reads everything else thats mine I E bank statements phone bills txt msgs nosey cnut :emoticon-0140-rofl: :emoticon-0140-rofl: