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Lol andy my ole china, I wasn't taking offence I said it was daft in the first place. I come along with the idea after listening to Freddy Vandheede where he puts a heating plate under the straw, I do not have heating in the young bird shed so thought about the next best thing

Like I said daft but they have always repayed me. The water bottle is placed under the bedding of paper or whatever I put down

I wean all my young birds over all on shredded paper in a corner with although it's daft a hot water bottle which is changed roughly 3 times a day.

Your not silly son, I can see what you said happening although I think they'll keep Harry till end of season

Very much doubt that would be in his contract, it would have been publicised I would have though?

Very much doubt Levy would allow Harry to divide his time, Champions league is priorty it means a lot of revenue for the club

It defiantly the way forward Clive if I had the room I'd buy corn in bulk, then you'd guareentee you'd get the same quality of corn

In humans your right, but in pigeons I've found the opposite

Best thing I find is hot water, soak the leg in it for a good while and it will shrink and generally you can then ring them

Lot 4 £20 >>>>Done Thanks Ian

Dropped down a place however very tight from 12 till 9th place

You're right again JAM, looking at a lot of birds Eric has offered for sale on pipa, and via other reading material, he was a big fan of the pigeon "SPRINT" of alberts and many are defendants of this bird

Ok Mr Mackintosh

Correct but eric plays the middle to long distance game

I've been using gem breeding mixed with maples, tic beans and G10 pellets. I am a big fan of Norban products so I use a few of there products daily either on the grain on in the water.

Does Trevor still have them then? I had a great mealy pied hen From Trevor a granddaughter of the geeloger she turned out winners like no bodies business but the mealies out of her would only win from 70miles however any blues or chequers would win out to 200miles.

Cawdy, what I suggest as a mix many would disagree, but you ask ten fanciers what they feed you'd get ten different answers. I have for the last 8 years bought grains to mix and to take certain quantities for certain weather condition ect. My own preference no matter what I mix I feel the birds need to be offered as many as possible a variety of grains to give the birds a choice. I am currently looking at a couple of mixtures for this season that I will be playing with for the distance, but basically what I am looking at is two widowhood mixtures, a fat mixture and I'm toying whether barley or depurative. But whether it is right or wrong I'd only be able to judge by the distance results this year. Peter great post yet again mate some very interesting things you brought up. You mention no one has hit the nail on head could you please offer up how you do it? Regards Ryan

Person you bought your thones of in my opinion had the best

Place them each on a perch and grab there beaks and get them to play fight after a week they'll start to fight you back

Lock stock and barrel

On the contary, boiling would only remove the vitamin c, vitamin a,e,d and k are not so delicate and will still be present. Vegetable water is an old fashioned remedy used for years to increase your iron intake, so iron must also be present?

Recently read an interview with Warren Foster and he stated he uses "garlic, onions, carrots and all vegetable water from cooking. He also add Ribena to these items and add one cupful to two gallons of water every day." I've used all of the above for many years mainly in the winter months but I've never heard or thought of using ribena. A 288ml cartoon of ribena gives a human his 100% dose of vitamin c for the day. There is much written on vitamin c and pigeons. Food for thought

Hmm I'm a big fan of garlic in the water with cider vinegar every day during the winter after a canker treatment it's possibly giving me something to think about

Garlic can be overdosed does it give any rates garlic should be used at?

Archie why give a probiotic after giving the birds garlic