there is no one thinks anymore about the welfare of the birds than stuart if you ask me percys have had a go at them ok the wee odd shower here and there would not stop them getting home if you seen something that scared the sh** out of you you would run any direction you could to get away from it thats what our poor wee birds do it happened to me last year my son let go 30 ybs phoned me to say the birds were going into trees the lot that 2 big birds were chasing them i got 8 ybs back out of 30 and only got 1 reported never seen the other 21 again ask rab stb he will tell you about bop strikes that guy gets hit all the time :animatedpigeons: