An update on the reds, The one on the left went the end of April and the other today, also a red sibling at the end of June, They have fared better than the Dk. Ch. youngsters, I've lost 4 of those, all not returned from ranging, I can keep on top of BOP around the loft but when away ranging they are on their own. From 2 pairs in the stock loft I've shut up tonight with 4 and it should be 11,