No I agree Rab, the boys up north do what they do cos they have too? If the members that fly 300+ want to fly inland nats then thats fair enough but they must accept thats its a whole country affair and that some will be flying considerably less? If not, then its not a national and as the starter of the thread wanted, its a regional affair? We just witnessed an exceptional performance into Moscow from an inland nat that the south should have, on paper, won? And a great 2nd open from a fancier that would not have been deemed in a hot spot down here? That for me keeps the game open for all and if the membership send in numbers to the inland nats then all is good and the club remains healthy? The water races are the holy grail and I think Chris, who could have worded it a bit better, was trying to point that out? I have respect for anybody that turns out top of the list in a nat wotever the distance, having naver done so, but also value the doos that you look at on the result and say ' I wish I could do that'? Spoke to Robbie Higgins at the nat doo this year and he told me of conquests from the coast that would make anybody proud but at the same time knew that we wer racing diffo doos from diffo distances? Top respect for the boys that fly long, the boys that fly in bad bits and the ones that just do it year in year out? Well done.