Kyleakin Lofts

Likewise, however I think the principle could be applied to many situations.

Maybe been racing with the NRCC last year.

The Flanders Cup A type of competition common in Belgium but unheard of and unthinkable over here is the Flanders Cup. This cup targets the Barcelona International and is about the art of forecasting your team in arrival order to confirm your ability to know your pigeons. Not only forecasting but also clocking the pigeons in the first 25 percent of the entry or in the full result. (The full result is the first 25 percent clocked) is also measured. This confirms the overall quality of the family. As most people know when you enter a race in Belgium or The Netherlands you have to write down your entries in the order you expect them to arrive at your loft. The first pigeon at the top is number one and so on down the list until the 10th pigeon you enter is the tenth pigeon on your list. Nobody gets it absolutely right but the closer you are and the more pigeons you time the better your chances of winning the Flanders Cup. This year 5034 fanciers entered the International Barcelona, but only three fanciers timed in all of their first selected 10 pigeons. That is 3 out of 5034 fanciers achieved the forecasting target maximum of 10 out of 10. It's a pretty tall order. The three fanciers who achieved this near impossible forecasting feat were: First: Christ Musters a fancier from Hoogerheide in the Netherlands. Second: Toon Janssen of Helenaveen also in the Netherlands Third: Hagens Brothers of Achthuizen again in the Netherlands - in fact the first five in the list were all from the Netherlands. As an example Christ Musters sent 10 pigeons, all ten were timed in the first 25%. They are shown below in the order in which they finished with their full International position, from 25,716 entrants, against which is their nomination order and velocity:- International Position Nomination Velocity 893 6 986.77 1335 1 967.16 1813 2 951.15 2297 3 934.98 2597 9 925.71 2734 4 921.38 2826 10 917.65 3430 7 898.34 4461 8 863.96 4570 5 860.40 while Toon Janssen, who also sent and timed ten pigeons, finished as follows:- International Position Nomination Velocity 146 1 1061.20 414 5 1018.69 706 3 996.24 796 9 990.66 1650 7 956.56 2141 10 940.06 2272 4 935.88 2477 5 928.99 3945 8 881.58 4610 2 858.88 A fancier who is known to the UK is our very own Patrick Brothers. They were 129th in the list timing in five of their first ten nominated pigeons. Those British fanciers who are inclined to raise their eyebrows at such a position and the number timed should realise that they were 129th out of 5034 fanciers taking part and even though not all of these sent ten pigeons to the race I would say at least half of them did. So its not so bad after all to time five our of the ten nominated pigeons. If a similar scheme were adopted in for instance the National Flying club they would probably not have even one fancier to time in ten out of ten pigeons in a race of similar distance. The beauty of the Barcelona International is that it affords a big sample so that competitions such as the "Flanders Cup" can take place. The first German loft was Heinz Seegmuller in 6th place timing in 9 of his ten pigeons, missing out with his 3rd pigeon. The first Belgian loft was Ferdy Schuermans who also timed 9 out of 10 missing out with his 9th pigeon. The first French loft was Eric Vitel of Grungies in Northern France. He timed eight of his selected 10 pigeons missing out with his 9th and 10th selections. Other notable fanciers were Nouwen Paesen 9th timing 9 out of 10, Gerard Van Tuyl 10th, Chris Van der Velden 43rd, Willy Clerebaut 27th, Frenken Brothers 39th, Mevr Deweerdt and son 45th, Robert Ben of Calais 26th timing 7 from 10, Menne and dtr the winners of the race in 46th, Wijnands and son from Maastricht in 69th, Lothar Lessmeister the German fancier in 63rd and Herman Brinkman the long flying fancier from Tuk in the Netherlands was 59th timing 6 out of 10. The wind was not good for French fanciers but Roger Senicourt of Gravelinnes on the French channel coast was 64th he timed 5 out of his 10 pigeons. John Clements

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Good morning all.

I'll need to look them up and "tea leaf" some of them.

Think there was a post on before about this. Fancy pigeons for sale as well. I think they said it was like a bring and sell / buy market.

Looking good Archie.

Cracker, with cheese would go down well.

Happy birthday.

Good day everyone, I have been out since early on at a training course.

Didn't mention, but mine are yearlings as well.

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How much time are you getting from your cocks? My hens will do the same as yours, but the cocks are not interested. 30 minutes max then down. They start off again, but not for long and then the cycle repeats until I call them in. Not bothering to flag yet.

Probably the caffeine buzz. Caffeine is a banned substance, so not worth the risk nowadays.

Pity it wasn't a hen, you could have called it Jenny.

Never mind, I heard pensioner day was coming soon. I understand his pensioner deals are quite good. Retail + 10%. :D

Lindsay (greenlands) might know. Hopefully he will answer your query.

Thanks Charlie. I knew someone would have the info. SW Fed covers Stranraer and Wigtown, so I'm sure they are in it. Obviously all Ayrshire and Renfrewshire covers south of the Clyde, Bridge of Weir, Kilbarchan, Johnstone and Barrhead, so probably all of it. I would think Greenock would also be in it, but how far reaching into Glasgow would it be? Thanks Charlie. I knew someone would have the info. SW Fed covers Stranraer and Wigtown, so I'm sure they are in it. Obviously all Ayrshire and Renfrewshire covers south of the Clyde, Bridge of Weir, Kilbarchan, Johnstone and Barrhead, so probably all of it. I would think Greenock would also be in it, but how far reaching into Glasgow would it be?

The Scots always love beating the English. Pity it doesn't happen too often. :D

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Good morning all.

I believe it is SW Fed, Stranraer area, Ayrshire Fed and Renfrewshire Fed, but no doubt someone will correct me.

I believe it was.

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