Roland

Have to paint the peches, and get he young birds into their loft now. We 'Walk the back and forth from the sections as they are too old really, some nearly 20 days. But will basket train on rooks over looking loft for a couple of days.

Well I firmly believe that 90% of pigeons have the ability to 'Home', especially when not bred from too closely related parents. We take a 'Natural' product and try to improve, or 'Hone in' a certain prespective. Any and all senses can only be sharpened with 'Fitness and health'. When I was boxing my father use to drill into me 'Fit men train to get fitter'. Must admit this took some understanding, as I thought that plenty of protiens and exercise was sufficence. Indeed once besides the £2 50 the 'Ole Timers' fought for, they cherished the steak moreso. Indeed the family relished it. But I - fortunately - had a mother that wouldn't adhere to raw eggs, and Cheese, chicken and a luttace Club's doctor subscribed to. It was 'He is big enough and ugly enough to run, and likes his chips etc. and that will do him;.... of course costs never entered her head lol. But protien is essentially a repairing and healing conmodity that builds up muscles. It has nothing to do with the actually stamina, of speed, but is needed. Many fail to see, and understand that a Good protien legume may well also be very high on carbs. Too much protien is dangerous as it can quickly turn to toxin A bad blood dsorder. Barly is for instance a natural blood purifyer. Hence the quicker anything is digested the quicker it is of use. The cleaner the blod, airways the healthier and better the pigeon. The main thing we have to be aware of is 'What we have in mind for the bird in the coming days'. Fitness / Health and condition are all part and partial of the same thing. Yes a right mental attitude can only be acheived with the right weight, as it has to balance. So of course in a naryral wide birds develope their traints that augers well for all and any needs that are needed. Likewise in the loft, regardless of the system and what it may entail. Regularity is of importance for instance. But I aintain that the first and everlasting thing of importance is contentment. Then a feeling of belonging in a safe inviorment. This places into place the wanting to be 'Home'. A feeling of freedom is also very relvant. Indeed the above two means that breaking birds is easy when cheived ... as long as the bird is let loose within three days. No mateter how many times done and retrieved, this is a must if the bird o a hardish race come to your loft first. Now how to aquire loft fitness and to go onto the next stages to get 'Superform'. Also how to keep birds at 95% fitness and get the extra 5% when needed. This 5% is the main difference between 1st and 10th place.

If the reality is that one feel that yearlings need expierence and training, sure - and as most have raced them as y/b's, - that from the come back races in Good weather would more than suffice. That have already had expierence and just now need a little aforethought surely.

Birds are in good condition, they get onto the ground and eat whatever there is lacking in their’ diet. No meds. No supplements to their feed or additives to the water. Water left over night with a false top. Wind to fly in to daily. Cocks chasing cock. Flying with zest and gusto, necks aced out and wings clapping or used like oars in a boat. Now they are loft fit and ready to be conditioned and become race fit.... which is in reality just another part of Health. Then with health they become 'Motivated' which becomes a 'Complete'.

Tammy also it is a realistic fact that Yearlings like the sun on their backs ... moreso than older ones. Yes on fine days yearlings win upto 500 miles no problem. Give them cold wins, and especially East winds that come from Siberia, and you are doing more harm than good. My yearlings weren't tossed even as y/b's, and have had just two 30 mile chucks so far this year ... lost 2, and I would be quite hapy to leave them till next year. But won't as in June they will earn a perch this season. They have had a round, fed youngsters upto 16 days, and now seperated. for a few weeks. May mate them with stock birds later to race when siiting and on a youngster.... but won't send when they are driving, as they have a tendancy to win, or be lost.

Ah a wnna be eh! lol

Heh heh

Simple lol.... keep the merchandise out of view nad harms way till in appropiate and safe places... see what a hard job it is to educate the .... opposite sex lol.

up at 1. 3o in south wind.

Northants / Leicester Alma no word yet... Scotch Corner.

No joke Sammy ... but you have to laugh at their stupidity!

No disrespect Chrissy, but that is oftena misnomer as mostly there are 3 times or more men around than women. Like women drivers, don't have as many accidents as men!.... but then again they cause a very large percentage, and walk away scot free.

So I also agree with 'Me' and feel your reply was a mite offensive and insulting Cement. And a 'Band is a Band' whether it costs 2p or £20! Oh to educate the illitre,ect.... spelt specially too lol

Not defending at all. No no doubt about that, but it may be that the person didn't know it was a ET band, and may have just be doing what many do, and take the Race Rubber of birds that enter their lofts to let the fancier know it has been in another loft and been fed and watered! JMI

Well have just finished painting the Young Bird loft, will be putting them in there tomora, a bit late, many 20 days old now. But I alsway Bleach well, burn real well, and then paint the sections before the new season.

You know, Johnny 11 does a cracking job, has a real mcCoy set up, and very quick and promt replies etc. And is more than very reasonable. Yes as is norm, many choose to ignore and promote the 'Names' and those earning a living out of it at our costs! Sure, they are good and entitled to make a living, that goes without saying, but how many have actually thought about, let alone use Johnny 11, a fellow pigeon flyer? I have twice, and am obviously more than satified and happy. I can't, really afford to sent to a 'Name' because it spouts another couple of letters behind their name - or their partners' name. Tests are tests! What the virus, or illness is and the cause looks the same whoever sees it, and with Johnny's sey up he will see a lot more. Qualified to understand and know what he is seeing etc. so why pay 2/3/4 times as much! Mind boggles, but that is human nature I suppose, give their money to a wealthier concern rather than use a better, and more cost effective person that is 'One of Us'!

I wonder how many sent yearlings! I saw a few sent some in our club. any a good yearling will be lost today. Yes some yearlings will win ... But many will be the empty perches tonight. We are only going just over 200 miles today, but I sent 4 cock birds, 2, 3 year olds and 2, 4 year olds.

Build a Wired avary with a solid frame. A overlapping false roof a foot to 18 inches slope - forward so you can see anything on the roof. Then close with airvents, and just a few removable nest boxes place upon each other on top of a covered in stand. I have plastic cladding on outer which I can replace with Air Vents to suit them and the weather.

Strains! I believe a better word and disciptions, and definately more honest would be 'Families, My family!

I believe that for sure... may make them home a mite quicker, others may say it would take something out of them ... Me, well I believe that they would home quicker....

This makes fscinating reading http://www.australian-pigeon-racing.com.au/moonahhs.htm

No doubt, only one Bussearts! Test of time and collosal winners at all distances. Next possibly Jansenn, - and a combination of umpteen strains.

Drop of 'Highlight in the eye.... if not out the beak nigh instantly, then it's respiratary

Buckton high protein till Wednesday, then a mix of small seeds with the likes of Hemp, saffron, and other high carbs.

I like a little garden lime sprinkled in and allowed to set ove night. And no I don't believe - like a lot of others - that it attracts E.Coli.... it has a very soothing effect andhence they don't get anxous for starters. Just watch the pigeons pick between the bricks for lime, when available.