Roland

Nice article Tony .... yet again.

Maize now is to keep the bird warm.

As Bob Flemmings often stated' ......Seen a poor pigeon with a good eye, but never seen a good pigeon with a bad eye'.

You know, every loft needs and ALL good fanciers have a Yardstick and likes, dislikes and fettistes. What is important is that you have one whatever it is. Why, well regardless what it is, one gets an system and 'Rule Book' which keeps them regular and consistant. I don't think for a moment that anyone would dispose of a bird that was a winner and / or a good breeder regardless of it's eyesign. Yes some GURU'S will tell you this that and the other. Know of a very well renowned 'EyeSign guru that told his prospective clients to order in a lot of Bin Liners. Came and said. 'Disposing will be another £1 per bird Iincase you don't have the heart to do the honours'! Honours? :-/ Any way he made a good living. But one needs guisde lines to stick to regardless what they may be. So if one would cull a winner / good breeder regards eyesign, then he would obviously keep them. So soon the birds will be sorting them selves out. Could it be then a decdiding factor as to buying, adding new blood? Well who would go to a loft and choose a bird with a better eye over that of winning or proven breeders? :-/ And pay good money to boot? :-/ yes some have and do I agree. But regardless, one using a little commonsence in this regards and that will inevertibly be performance birds over eyesign mostly.

A man goes out golfing... He is on the second hole when he notices a frog sitting next to the green. He thinks nothing of it and is about to shoot when he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron.." The man looks around and doesn't see anyone. Again, he hears, "Ribbit 9 Iron." He looks at the frog and decides to prove the frog wrong, puts the club away, and grabs a 9 iron. Boom! He hits it 10 inches from the cup. He is shocked. He says to the frog, "Wow that's amazing. You must be a lucky frog?" The frog replies, "Ribbit Lucky frog." The man decides to take the frog with him to the next hole. "What do you think frog?" the man asks. "Ribbit 3 wood." The guy takes out a 3 wood and Boom! Hole in one. The man is befuddled and doesn't know what to say. By the end of the day, the man golfed the best game of golf in his life and asks the frog, "OK where to next?" The frog replies, "Ribbit Las Vegas ." " They go to Las Vegas and the guy says, "OK frog, now what?" The frog says, "Ribbit Roulette." Upon approaching the roulette table, the man asks, "What do you think I should bet?" The frog replies, "Ribbit $3000, black 6." Now, this is a million-to-one shot to win, but after the golf game the man figures what the heck. Boom! Tons of cash comes sliding back across the table. The man takes his winnings and buys the best room in the hotel. He sits the frog down and says, "Frog, I don't know how to repay you. You've won me all this money and I am forever grateful." The frog replies, "Ribbit Kiss Me." He figures why not, since after all the frog did for him, he deserves it. With a kiss, the frog turns into a Gorgeous girl. "And that is how the girl ended up in my room Elin. So help me God or my name is not Tiger Woods."

An old one… but worth another smile! A young man named John received a parrot as a gift. The parrot had a bad attitude and an even worse vocabulary. Every word out of the bird's' mouth was rude, obnoxious and laced with profanity. John tried and tried to change the bird's attitude by consistently saying only polite words, playing soft music and anything else he could think of to 'clean up' the bird's vocabulary. Finally, John was fed up and he yelled at the parrot. The parrot yelled back. John shook the parrot and the parrot got angrier and even more rude. John, in desperation, threw up his hand, grabbed the bird and put him in the freezer. For a few minutes the parrot squawked and kicked and screamed. Then suddenly there was total quiet. Not a peep was heardfor over a minute. Fearing that he'd hurt the parrot, John quickly opened the door to the freezer. The parrot calmly stepped out onto John's outstretched arms and said "I believe I may have offended you with my rude language and actions. I'm sincerely remorseful for my inappropriate transgressions and I fully intend to do everything I can to correct my rude and unforgivable behavior.." John was stunned at the change in the bird's attitude. As he was about to ask the parrot what had made such a dramatic change in his behavior, the bird spoke-up, very softly, "May I ask what the turkey did?" HAPPY NEW YEAR FOLKS

Well stb, so called duffs, / Culls or not very good racers often are great breeders. Stamvater was speciffically bred to be a Stock Cock. Never raced and Stamvater means 'Producer' and to be honest he must rate alongside of the very best breeder. Sorry to distract from the eyesign part, but wanted to say best to best is the way to go, for very quickly you have worst to worst. 6 pairs and how many winners. Likewise winners aren't always good breeders. Indeed most aren't. You just shorten the odds.

Tipplers have the best.

Great buy is 2 - 5 share costs.

Pleased about that. Personally I thing everyone should be proud of their Birth place and rootes. I know I am. I know for instance that withn the USA at the moment the Anglo / American is possibly the tops at moment. But when I look and see just what the Brits achieved with the British empire. The actual size of the U.K. and numbers it really is incrediable what was achieved and lqnds held for we were dominately well best and most powerful World power of all time. Sad regards our atrocities we inflicted on other nations. The rape and pillage of lands and peoples, which I personally am ashamed. But that is done, dustied and berried. But I'm proud to be a Brit. Whether that means English first :-/ No that is just the personal side and pride and tradition. Moreover being a Brit, part and partial of the UK is the real sense of pride. For in reality without each other, their skills and what ALL offered that make us great it just wouldn't have happened without the bonding of all parties.

All is certainly not lost when we have good people inventing whole new technologies - and making them "open source" - the way IBM did with the PC back in the '70's. Thanks to Mark Markovic for bringing the following to our attention. Listen to this short inspiring video, and gain a new perspective on our possibilities. "You won't believe this guy from MIT and what he has invented. (among several). I was amazed. I understand from the inventor's presentation the software will be open (freely available to all) and the hardware would be quite inexpensive to produce commercially.

One has to be careful here regards wieght etc. I like wheat mixed with barley. A little linseed every other day first. This weather one really should also be ading a little high carbs for heating them up and combatting the cold. Now if the birds lack, as barley has some propeties lacking, specially in quantity, they will oer eat / gorge themselves on it given the chance. One needs to look at the Grain tables to see what they entail like.

As long as it's airy mucker you can have as many as you like. The only country, that I know of, that governs the amount of birdage etc. to a loft is Canada. Over there it is one bird per square foot. So 16' 6'' x 6 wide x 6 feet high would house as many as you like. Fresh air circulation taken into consideration.

Great, just don't pay too much. £3 to £4 tops for 25k. Look out for dust.

Say I decide what I wish to mate and place them together for say 4 days then seperate. And I do this with all my birds that I want mating to which, then seperate them all back into Cockbirds and hens. Then reintroduce them back together in another 3 -4 weeks say. Would they bond and stay together. And settle easier? :-/ Yes I would let the hens chose and be settled in their' own nest boxes before putting the cock birds in?

A cowboy appeared before St. Peter at the Pearly Gates. 'Have you ever done anything of particular merit?' St. Peter asked. 'Well, I can think of one thing,' the cowboy> offered. 'On a trip to the Black Hills out in South Dakota , I came upon a gang of bikers, who were threatening a young woman. I directed them to leave her alone, but they wouldn't listen. So, I approached the largest and most tattooed biker and smacked him in the face. Kicked his bike over, ripped out his nose ring, and threw it on the ground. I yelled, 'Now, back off or I'll do the same thing to all of you!' St. Peter was impressed, 'When did this happen?' 'Couple of minutes ago .. . .'

May win instead of a paper bag you mean. Agree. Fundementally I believe the better the fancier the better the pigeon. And the % that can be improved on is minimal. Slight higher % with a better bird... These I mean that hope and aren't lost / week takers etc. of course. Hence it is the Fancier then the bird's ability. Now to ask again in another way, aren't we with all this 'Beneficials' given just masking over? Like papering over the cracks? :-/ Ye only healthy pigeons win. Surely the Book adage of covers sublimes too many fanciers way of thinking. I believe pigeons, like every living thing, becomes fit. This is a must as no one can treat or make a bird Fit, hence Fit men Train to getting fitter. Likewise with our birds. Then of course we will see the improvement and all round looks etc. as the bird ges fitter till super form. No bottle or presciption can do that. Yes induce a little. So surely the Bottle / oils etc. are, and can only be an assett when a bird is ill etc. Lose droppings are a good beginning as one sees the improvement - if any as the bird gets better condition. Yes I have a mixture of a wide and varied droppings in my lofts. Different lofts have different struture, Air circulation etc. etc. Different perches etc. No worried as I see the differences in the nesting position. Indeed if I remove one or two with nut brown so called marbles, and others take up their' places then strangely so their droppings droppings change.

So one goes into their loft. Some nice round brown marbles and firm. Some same but green etc. etc. No droppings though show anything untowards and the birds by and large look very to brilliant and in perk condition. Some have softer, silker feathers than others. So one does no more that post, or reaches for the Oil jar etc. and sploshes it on feed, another in the water etc. A while later one goes into the loft. Droppings are overall - except the brown nuts marbles, are, or at least to the mind better. Their feathers are a mite tighter and more are silkier... :-/ So are these now better all round birds? :-/ Indeed are we curing what doesn't need curing or improving? :-/ Will they now come better racers this coming season? :-/ Indeed have we needlessly bolster someones pocket for endorsing a product.... prehaps even one that didn't ever think of using it before, and even after ... :-/ Had one season a dry feathered hen. Felt soft, but as if the quill would break so very easily if touched etc. Was my best birds by far that year If I'd sploshed the oils about, etc. etc. would she have done even better? :-/

Lol see Paul missed the point Alan lol. Mind Torres would fetch the £140, with the 000,000 on the end £140,000,ooo Man u can't afford him as they are over £800,000,000 in debt. Obvious that as they aren't in the market to replace the big 'Sulk' etc.

Good photo's and design of good birds Well done the both of you.

Grand to get married .... £50grand or more divorce lol

Me and Hurr Wish you all a Happy New Year and hope you stay Hale, Healthy and Safe!

I have here Singapore...wmv (3.3 MB) an actual six lashes being given. It really shows the damage and hurt. Birch if imaginable is / was far worst. This was for 'Drink Driving' If any one knows how to put this up for others - with stout hearts - to see, then P.m. with your addie and I will forward it. Has to be seen to be believed. Now a 100 lashes .... Takes the skin off and cuts deep.

Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 8:33 AMSubject: Interesting > Nature equipped pigeons with the perfect on-board computer. But homing> instinct is no match for technology.>> Scientists have used microchips to force pigeons to ignore their inbuilt> radars and fly straight up, straight down, left and right.>> They claim to have created the world's first remote- control pigeons, > saying> they can control the birds' minds at the click of a button.>> In tests likely to ruffle feathers among pigeon fanciers, scientists> implanted microchip receivers into the pigeons' brains.>> By sending electronic impulse signals from a computer on the ground, they> were able to plot a course and force the pigeons to fly in a chosen> direction.>> This overrode the birds' natural instinct to fly in a circular route. > "It's> the first such successful experiment on a pigeon in the world," said chief> scientist Professor Su Xuecheng, at the Robot Engineering Technology> Research Centre at Shandong University of Science and Technology in China.>> "Via a computer, we forced the bird to comply with our commands," he said.>> Professor Su and his colleagues claimed to have had similar results with> mice in 2005, and had since been improving the devices used in the> experiment. It has long been believed that homing pigeons lose their sense> of direction during an electrical storm.>> Professor Su and his team carefully studied the effects of the weather on> pigeons to devise their computer implant.>> "We hope the technology could be put into practical use in future," said> Professor Su.>> Exactly what practical use remains a mystery. Thought control, with its> Orwellian overtones, is a sensitive issue, even if limited to pigeons and> mice.>> The fact that the birds have been developed in China, with its history of> oppressing free thinkers, will not be lost on some in scientific circles.> Scientific-achievement aside, remotecontrol pigeons would certainly take > the> fun and skill out of breeding top- class homing pigeons for Britain's> thousands of fanciers.>> They will be certain to cause a flap among members of the Royal Pigeon> Racing Association, which boasts the Queen as patron.>> Professor's Su's findings were announced on the day China's state > scientific> and technological award for 2006 was presented in Beijing.>> Chinese president Hu Jintao awarded scientist Li Zhensheng for his> achievements in developing drought-resistant wheat.

Nothing but the odd light sprinkle twice in over two weeks mores the pity. Settled once for about 3 hours in the night.