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You only have to put it in a bucket and agitate it {stir} for a minute.

100% correct Derek and we should sack the convoyer for liberating as he is the one on site.

"Blue Pied" if you find the answer let us all know..as I had the same problem but when I introduced a bit of barley in they responded better. On looking back my loft diary the birds were training rasonably well on 10% Barley which I stopped and replaced with Peanuts and Sunflower after Buckingham, So perhaps their is a possibility internal fat has contributed to a loss of form. Thank you for your post as this was one of the reasons I started "Natural" to have input that others may find usefull as my experiences of a bygone day is long gone with new methods and circumstances replacing what we once had..

Having made the error in pairing later "on hindsight" I had to play catch up with them. I started racing with 25 from 25 at 85 miles then some were started at 110 miles some more at 150 miles and some at 200 miles so losses were to be expected. Some were jumped in all probability too far from an 85 mile toss into 200 miles but this was a problem off my making, anyway at the moment I have 20 left from the original 50 with 9 being lost in the three Nats I went to with 14 entries and two which never seen a basket a second time being hawked and two which were disposed. I am coming to the conclusion that the Natural system is doing my head in as plans are dependant on Hens laying on time and losing partners severely upsets all that you have worked and put in place for.

Yes, But only on any individual bird that I feel after looking up the nostril for any foreign matter such as a bit of straw. If you have seen the film regarding Nazaline I have never had anything like that crap working its way out.

expletive remove Derek, All the above, NAW, and especially not for me personally.

I just dont know what it is Derek ?, Is it blocked nostrils ?, or Lung infection ?, All medicines with the exception of those requiring P.O.M. can be bought off the shelf and are mostly useless in my opinion. I honestly believe some fanciers are convinced that by giving certain products they will win with them but to my mind if all the top fanciers only sent a maximum of 2 pigeons to a race whether it be 60 miles or 600 miles you would find the real winning fanciers and it would be a different ball game. The guys I really admire are those that only send 1 and clock them regardless what position they win as they are the ones who have the confidence and ability to prove their worth. Its the same as "if" The Southern Uplands did not exist racing into Central Scotland would be truer racing.

To be perfectly honest George I dont know what respiratory is !!, I thought it had to do with birds gasping with open beaks and sought advice from Garry the Herbalist from Penrith when employed by C.J. but no problems were identified so I tried this trick. The birds were forced to fly an extra 5 minutes every day with me on the loft roof with a double barrel shotgun. After a week they were flying round the loft for maybe 45 minutes and all the gasping dissapeared. Apart from a Lung Wormer they are never flock treated. There is one way to check the air passages that I use and that to bend the head downwards and put your ear to its back, If no noise is heard then their should not be a problem, But then again I am deaf..

Dave Padfield was on the phone through the week and has clocked a good yin out of Barcelona.

Have not had time to apply myself to the keyboard but to continue from where I left off, The bird in question I took into my tool shed with the intension of disposing her in a painless fashion when I thought I would try something out of the ordinary and put the kettle on, not to make a cup of tea but to dissolve half a teaspoon of Virkon "S" in warm water, then taking a cotton bud dipped in the solution I proceeded to give her wattle a scrub. Removing the stain took 6 buds but it came off leaving her wattle a rosy pink as if she had been flying through a thunder storm. The next day it was still shining pink but a few days later it was as white as driven snow. I have came to the conclusion that the mess of her wattle was down to crop milk when feeding her single young and the excess was covering her face.. Lesson Learnt.. The "Grand" has had a 60 mile training toss every second day and covered the miles with ease and faster by a couple of minutes every time including his last which was into a strong head wind. He is now sitting and will be sent on Tuesday to Roye covering 14 day eggs, I have to say that at the moment he is looking the best he has ever been and a much richer deeper colour. One can only keep ones digits crossed and hope the old saying Third Time Lucky applies. To all my friends [you know who you are] Heartfelt Congratulations on your success in the Nationals and condolences to those friends who have been dissapointed, Remember their is always next year and without us losers their cannot be winners !!!

Denny doo,, 01324 825814

Twenty times maybe more every day I am in my loft and on every occasion I am looking for a bird that has returned from either Littlehampton or Reims and at my last daily visit on Friday night one had returned from Littlehampton. Apart from a few missing feathers from her back she was safe and sound to fight again next season. I had to give Ancencis and Lylle a miss as there was nothing available with the losses incurred to the team however with one training toss to go on Tuesday I will be sending the "Grand" to Roye. At the moment he has had 60 mile trainers every second day and is shaping up well with his new tail and what is so good about him is at every toss he has been to, he hits the landing board and pirouettes cooing for a couple of minutes to let me know how clever he is. 14 days ago a 2 year old Hen that I fancied hatched an egg and the following day her wattle was slightly yellow and went worse with every passing day, It got to the stage where it was brown and I imagined the rest of the team were going the same way and decided to put her down as it was starting to go a deep brown with traces of black through it and looked extremely contagous although her chick seemed healthy and no others showed signs of whatever disease she had as I had never seen anything like it.

Denny Doo, Bert Kilpatrick, 01324 825814

Alf, In our house Mary does all the cleaning and cooking and my only job is the dish washing which includes cutlery, so, if I were to spill blood she would kill me for making a mess LOL. I might give Roye a go in a couple of weeks if I can get the "Grand" up to pace with some 60 milers from Jedburgh.

Well the Gold Cup race !!!!!! is timed out and the only thing I personally recieved from it was a headache. I suppose I have to go back to Littlehampton when I never saw my entries again and am off the opinion that along with many others I wont be seeing the Gold Cup entries again either. I said last Thursday to friends enquiring how I thought it would pan out and replied that I would not be surprised if they were brought back home with the weather forecasted for the week-end being disastrously awfull, Thunderstorms etc for Friday plus a heavy front coming in from the Atlantic was never going to be acceptably conjusive to decent returns and my worst fear was when reading the convoyers report on liberation that the birds cleared in a North East direction when they should have headed North West towards the coast. Anyone who has been reading my posts will know that new distance birds were introduced 4 years ago and had been treated with kid gloves firstly by the roundabout system then as they matured into 2 year olds put into the Natural system. With not having a bird arrive home further than 300 miles I dont know if its the Birds or the System ??. My management cannot be at fault as I have given them my all in what has been in time and effort so can only blame the last 2 races, organised by the SNFC that I participated in wholeheartedly has seen my birds put into rickety old baskets with hessian disintigrating allowing dust and crap to sift through onto the birds below. I know this for fact as the birds were put in our Midland Fed club baskets and I know what they are like. Perhaps it is me, Perhaps the birds cannot cut the mustard and I cannot tell because of the losses incurred by fanciers at the top of the tree finding it difficult to get reasonable returns as well.. When the game has to survive in luck more than quality then I will have to wrap it in as lady luck has never found my shoulder to sit on. P.S. The four I sent were superb in every way with three having thrown two in each wing to-gether and one Hen was refusing to let her Cock onto the nest with her virtually moulded into it. Sick,Sick,Sick..and sorry for being so negative..

16.00 here in Falkirk ..42 hrs flying time for 573 miles roughly.

What a beautiful writer you are, unlike my scribble which no one including myself can read..

Simplicity in its self..The bottle fixes onto the loader and is not removed till empty. Needles are supplied with vaccination and are self screwed on. There in no interaction between needle and liquid and when the trigger is pressed the allocated amount which is determined by whatever vaccine you are using delivers the load and when released refills the holding area. Fool sorry full details are suplied with the gun from Flightmaster..Best thing since sliced bread..

Extremely happy for you John,

1111 for me..

You'r no auld enough Dafty

I can give you another snippet from the past from Robert Cormack [Winchburgh]. The introduction of Belgian and Dutch Pigeons "Quote" Will be the DESTRUCTION of the Scottish Long Distance Pigeon..

I dont know if this is what you are looking for so I will try this one !!! Eddie said regarding National racing.. 45% of the birds competing are not bred for the job.. 45% are not fit for the distance.. SO you are only competing against the 10% that are left.. Aye perhaps we are all forgetting {me included} that little snippet.

Littlehampton Still waiting for one to return But it was a good race for them on the result. What happened to mine ? Well perhaps they just were not good enough as 3 of the 4 sent were related so qustion marks against the parents, Perhaps my management is at fault as I dd not practice what I have been preaching however Reims will prove the pudding as they are in the best condition I could send them regarding fitness and motivation.

Just another little bit of information regarding Littlehampton. Farnborough Airport is 30 miles North on a direct flight line into Central Scotland and at 40 miles North they are 3 miles from the approach or take off for the busiest airport in the world HEATHROW. Perhaps the weather had nothing to do with the returns.