most fanciers believe that the base of jocks birds were from the great davie angus of symington,mention is made of another fancier from the same village i think by the name of brown who jock carried out some joinery work for with payment being a particular doo that had taken his fancy,jocks first national prize was won at 16 years of age from guersney with the snfc in 1949 and his last prize from vire 2000,whilst in the company of another pb member in jocks house a sack was produced containing all of his national certificates after counting over 230 we stopped,remember 15/1 and no inland nationals in these days,spent a lot of smashing nights at jocks talking doos and eating cheese and toast,great times. :) :)