on the same lines walter i have bought a few good yins at local sales,a cock bought at uddingston for the pricey sum of £7 highlight was 9th sec 54th open snfc tours 628 mls,bred by logan & son douglas water,kirkintilloch lottery sale bought for £17 blue pied hen highlight 12th sec 42nd open snfc falaise 522 mls,gifts john carberry & son of croy gifted us a hen who was a club,fed,combine and national prizewinner racing until 8 yrs old and winning.john harwood of milton of campsie gifted us a griz hen "jittery jill" who was a great winner for us highlight 2nd open lanarkshire amalgamation lille 1217 birds,we have also been fortunate enough to breed club,fed,combine and national prizewinning birds for friends and fellow fanciers,sales,swaps gifts etc of which we are very proud. :) :)most of the above have competed in the last ten years. :)