I can asure you that if the judge was a proper eye sign guy and not someone who just because he as won a few races thinks he is a expert on the subject,he would pick out your birds no problem,I have been interested in eyesign for almost 50 years and shown birds all over the country but would not call myself an expert in any way or even try to explain it to others,but I have selected many birds on eyesign alone which have bred me winners,was I lucky I dont know but I have said before IT WORKS FOR ME and thats all I,m worried about.