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In there again Rose well done (again)

Mick tiz true winning NFC is highly prestigious however paying £6 for bordeaux feels like I am being fleeced. So at £8 how much more prestige is on line for a good bird from Dax with BICC.

Bit of a shambles Mick. I haven't been well, so I sent an e mail to the sec, asking a question. All I got was, see your rule book. Our birds will be going to Bordeaux and Sennen cove. Then I don't see us being members next year. Think I will join BICC and BBC instead. So I hope they can afford to pay for that nice transporter.

I'd be looking at canker. Have you treated for this.

Kev I would train in the evening and I go 12mls but for me anywhere Southam area works great but if I move on to Banbury it's like a black hole. Dunno if anyone else has found Bad spots to train.

Jimmy did you have more or less natural YEARLINGS is more to the point

Well Kev I stick to 12mls as this seems to be a good spot. It used to be 10mls, but we moved and still use the same spot. Rose that doesn't sound so different to us as 12mls 100mls 154mls 189mls and into Perth 297mls for our distance birds. (Sorry what other type are there) LOL. We were at the coast training Sunday, about 130mls. See other threads about 7 days Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Make sure you use potcode, county and contact numbers. I consider I've been lucky with no problems.

Lots of people do well with darkness yearlings but we didn't

They will get used to it but try to gain their confidence with titbits would be my choice

First toss 12mls for two weeks then straight into first race 85mls but Rose tell us more

Hey shadow I think you've cracked it. The female of the species do seem to rattle more.

We only have Amtrac what else can you do. Sometimes there is no choice.

No I haven't read the Jack Barkel article (but will) Now I didn't say respiratory has not been a problem. My way of thinking is it isn't. But that's where I am coming from. We have 1 young bird from a newly introduced Belgian cock, this bird has had a touch of respiratory. Now my other young birds will fly for ever. What would you do with it. My way of thinking is, Cull, Treat, or my choice give it time and see. My opinion is it wont cut it .

Best o' luck Rose. Sure ours will go BICC next year too

So if I treat Cocci , Canker and worms and also use a preventative for e-coli. Do I need to treat for respiratory? I think not. Five years on from buying the Colin Walker book I now treat less, and still see less infection, and I have never treated respiratory.

I would try the rpra first as many foreign rung birds are now registerd here.

Jimmy. The book I quoted earlier said exacly that. Carol may not agree. To me it showed what to treat when to treat and how to treat. The message to me was, if we need to do all these things, may-be we should have a good look at what we're doing

If the feathers on the chest, are broken from rubbing on the drinker, or even chewed off, by some sort of mite. You may need to wait for the birds to molt out. All the ideas above would work. However time may be the thing.

I'd swear by Ivermectin, but I wouldn't use it all year round, and it may be difficult to obtain. Harkers also have a new product called Asca pilla. However this product advises, don't use during the molt. If it aint broke don't fix it. Biozine may have been sufficeient.

I'd also jump at Tammy's offer I have the Aarden's and Krauth's. Good distance birds.

Paul you sound as though you have the health right. Although Biozine is not the best wormer available these days. As for breaking birds to a new home. When we moved here, I brought the birds here and let them fly home three times, then when we moved here, I just let the birds go down on eggs and let them out. Now the old loft had gone, the birds new there way from here to our old house, so all we had to do was wait. In time out of 30 birds all but 1 came back. I could let my birds out everyday, go to the other side of town, and see them going round our old house. They got plenty of excercise, but we got them.

Me I'd give 'em a couple o' days loft flying till they get there confidence back. May-be a day or two may-be a week or more. Whenever they start to fly well again. Now I know others have very different ideas but. A Sunday late in the day with the sun shinning, no east in the wind, back to the same point you lost 'em from. As long as this spot, is not a spot half the local fed use. Don't see why you shouldn't get more, and these birds could do you some good if treated with care. Just take time, Ours have only been in the basket to get 'em vaccinated. May-be start training next week. All the best.

Don't see any problem with keeping them at 11 miles. We start ours at that distance. Hope you get some more.

Try RPRA strays@rpra.org