Have to agree we went with BICC and it was certainly a tough race we had 2 on the day but ended with 60% returns. For me I don't see that as bad. Tough would be how I'd describe it. If you don't want to take the risk don't send. The convoyers have tough decisions to make and will get a tough one sometimes. Have you never took your own birds down the road and thought, my god I've got it wrong