Peter has your Palamos cock bred any decent YBs and how has he done from there? Cheers Mick Mick I take what you're saying. His daughter is off to Barclona and as yet she is the best I have from him. I don't have a loft full like him. I've put his babbies on at £25 as I think they would be a good punt for any one's money. Tiz true good birds can produce cr4p, but I've priced these to suit. I'm gonna breed a pair from him for the top man round here, and he wouldn't give 'em corn if he thought they would be no good. They only leave here if they are worth a try. With the response I've had this has sealed the fate of one pair of whites. I saw these as only good for weddings. As Stan wants the lot one pair of whites I was gonna keep back will now go with the rest as replacements. If I sell or even gift birds. The only guarantee they have is, I let them go with complete confidence I've done my best for them.