inbreeding or winner to winner or sometimes a pair that have not won anything can breed winners. if it was as easy as champion x champion = champion yb,s.the fanciers like myself and most on hear would not have a winner.it would be the fanciers that spend £1000,s buying the best that would do all the winning. lucky for us that is not the case .yes most of us try to improve with our birds and buy the best we can afford .so with winners coming from just about any type ie champion or club winner or bird with no wins. it is hard to narrow down whats best.any bird of mine that produces a bird to win for me will be kept for breeding as i think it is harder to get good breeders than it is to get a winner.