Aye mate know what you mean I ran a marking station for the snrpc ,I spoke to the late frank baillie about the wagging tounges if I got a good un out of the races , I was so glad I had nothing to do with the marking when I won the Reims gold medal race in 2008 . You could hear them couldn't you ??? So you right about that Lewis , but to be honest if you win nowadays then your at it . Even in your club expletive remove.