If my memory serves me right I think rubbers were £18/20 a 1,000 last season,I see they are now £30. Is that because less people are using them ,the cost of production or just trying their best to make us realise that ETS is the way to go. Then once the majority are using ETS wait and see what the manufacturers can really do when they have you by the short and curly's. As Mick says he's about to enter the real word,State pension,not much fun mate,I've been on it(single male) for a while.Not enough to fill the fuel tank on the car. Lindsay