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Its gettin harder Gavin. 23 seconds covers the first 20 doos in the club

10 members sent 363 birds 1. D Glen 1453.33 2. D Glen 1452.97 3. D Glen 1452.60 4. D J Liddle 1452.44 5. D Glen 1452.24 6. D J Liddle 1452.08 7. D Glen 1451.88 8. D Glen 1451.52 9. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1447.15 10.Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1446.80 11.I Scott 1446.61 12.Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1446.45 Well done Davie. Maximum six club positions but a few more for the fed result

Dundee & Angus liberated at Arniston at 10.30 in a West wind

Well I spoke to the guy last night and if he did send the E rung doo north it was a genuine mistake and unlike some he was man enough to apologise if that is what happened. As he said he is down near the Forth Bridge every day and would toss birds from that direction down there. The GB bird had previously been tossed from Rosyth and came back and as he was inundated with north doos he assumed it was from there (note no wing stamp as per SHU instructions) and from previous bad experience if you report birds which belong down south many don't want to or cant afford to pay for a courier and want them disposed of. (these are you "so called fanciers" imo). Good luck in the young bird national, watch out for the so called fanciers from Forfar though.

The AF bird is Montrose. Could you give it to George as well and I will get it collected.

Well I`m afraid I cant understand how that happened as the guy is able to get doos tossed near Edinburgh so wouldn't have knowingly sent it north. I`ll try and find out though. If you had said at the start it was an E rung bird it would have saved a lot of confusion

As far as I was aware they were NE and AB rung birds. If one had your stamp on it I cant explain that but your original post gave the impression that all strays must be sent to the stray centre. By the way the stray centre don't always check wing stamps either. I still await your apology for saying our federation ignore the SHU stray centre and who the "so called fanciers" are. As for your statement regarding sending AF birds to Blackpool (or Portsmouth as you stated on other thread), I think we will just ignore that.

Don't usually get involved in this stuff but as you are criticising my club and federation I feel I must respond. 1. I know who the fancier was and commend him for helping get birds back to their lofts as soon as possible. He asked if any other members had NE or AB pigeons to bring them to him as someone was collecting them 2. There is a stray crate on our transporter every week but we don't get that many strays up here from south of us. 3. If the strays had been sent on our transporter they would have been delivered to the stray centre on Sunday (the day we were racing). I don't think Aberdeen and North of Scotland Federations go to the stray centre until they are racing from Arniston. (Aberdeen are there this week). Therefore the pigeons would have been at the stray centre for a week when they were in fact back in their lofts. 4. Our members often meet the N o S lorry on the A90 to hand over strays or collect our birds which have gone north. Are you seriously suggesting that every bird should be sent to the stray centre where it could sit for a week before being collected. Because we now have the SHU ring list pigeons can be returned to their lofts much quicker than they used to be. I see Wuldon has released an AB doo in Aberdeen today. Would you rather he sent it to Broxburn on Saturday? 5. I would like you to name who you are referring to as "so called fanciers". Some of the best fanciers in Scotland are members of my club and if you are referring to any of them I am sure they will be most annoyed. I don't think we would go running to the SHU but an apology on here will be the least expected. Rant over. David Liddle (Secretary Forfar RPC and Angus Federation)

Sorry I cant. Would have to connect laptop to system at club. Just tried it on a member that is not using ETS just now. I am sure it would print the zeros though

Just tried to add an IHU ring as an experiment and it includes the zeros. The only way to remove them would be an upgrade by Unikon. I think thats what happened when it did it with the SU rings

Which system is it? We use the Profi and the ring numbers are ok. I think it used to show zeros years ago but not now

10 members sent 410 birds 1. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1469.06 2. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1467.97 3. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1465.43 4. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1464.70 5. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1464.70 6. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1464.34 7. D J Liddle 1445.96 8. R Baldie 1445.88 9. R Baldie 1445.88 10.D Glen 1445.03 11.R Baldie 1444.82 12.D Glen 1444.67 Well done Gavin & Jimmy. Maximum six club places but may take the first 20 in the fed.

Angus and Dundee liberated at Arniston at 8.15 south/south east wind

Due to the weather forecast race marking for Arniston has been delayed by 24 hours

Its my doo Jock. Away all day today. PM your number I will phone tomorrow

11 members, 436 birds 1. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1373.92 2. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1373.60 3. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1373.29 4. D Glen 1373.10 5. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1372.97 6. D Glen 1372.78 7. D Glen 1372.13 8. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1371.69 9. Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1371.06 10.Macaulay, Ferguson & Curran 1368.21 11.I Scott 1367.18 12.D Glen 1366.33

Angus and Dundee liberated at Arniston at 8.15 a.m. No wind at racepoint

9 members 57 birds 1. D J Liddle 1275.70 2. E Galloway 1169.44 3. J McKay 1049.33 4. I Scott 731.21 5. D J Liddle 729.04 6. I Scott 684.58 7. I Scott 666.00 8. M Leggett 659.31 9. D Glen 593.88 10.C E Bell 564.56

more like 49

Congratulations and well done to Forfar members Ian Scott, Eric Galloway and Davie Glen who were 1st, 2nd and 3rd Section C

Well done Stuart. Fantastic result!

Its working ok with me

go to provisional results

Absolute cracker Stuart. No be many to beat that. Well done (and Mike Main)

6 members 109 birds 1. DJ Liddle 1021.32 2. D Glen 1016.15 3. D Glen 995.39 4. D Glen 995.39 5. DJ Liddle 995.23 6. D Glen 979.69 7. D Glen 931.71 8. J McKay 918.18 9. DJ Liddle 908.86 10.D Glen 896.79 11.I Scott 895.51 12.DJ Liddle 874.23 M Leggett 849.79 E Galloway 835.65