when still a new starter back in Wales i had 3 yearling hens who had flown well as ybs (no cards tho) they had a Chepstow race 98 mile and were then paired to stock cocks and when on chipping eggs or a small youngster were sent to Fougeres (about 400 mile) was asked at basket night ,"have they had much training "?? = yes i said ,4 times this week ,"how far"?? Asda once Sainsbury 3 times (which was about 4 miles away) ."you wont see them again" i was told .well 2 made it 7th and 12th club