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ill be at the stand for 12

maybe someone could help your club with filling the forms out that have been accepted just a thought , my clubs a Invitation club so mine couldnt get a grant anyway

well perhaps if we take a look at different sports such as golf the membership to a club for annual fees be far more than an ets system perhaps if they did there homework they could get a grant and therefore wouldnt cost them anything , but then i suppose the £1.20 per ring would be far too expensive if they lost the birds , breed better birds lor keep less theres always an answer but i suppose theres milions of excuses to leave the sport .

just have a good memory from time to time lol pigeon things tend to get saved whilst appointments i forget lol as for sprinting i like the wait and anticipation rather than the traping match however my birds have won from 86 miles to 512 miles i like the flying from the channel

arena 124 thats where pigeon basics will be

could always use taylors choice

i would be very wairy most internet scams are done via South Africa

surely the pad is external and therefore the birds are getting clocked outside and not within the confines of the loft , to be legal the board would have to be inside

have to agree most races favour the East parts of the fed been further west would be more of an disavantage

I agree with most of the statement however i think ets will put less abled fanciers on a equal footing , been disabled and having only the use of one arm the old clocking with thimbles is hard and although i never grumbled at the advantages my fellow flyers have removing rubbers and putting thimbles together i never have suggested they tie the arm they favour behind there back nor was there ever a suggestion of a time penalty giving me 30 seconds for each bird i've clocked , i've always had the knowledge my birds could have won if i had gained a few seconds but such as life sometimes things arent fair , good birds shine with good management and still win even if hampered at the end of there race by me thumbling with thimbles and rubbers

Well if your getting beat you either up grade your birds get off your but and put work into them or quit by giving up , winners never quit and quiters will never win simple as that , most ets systems are been get by lottery grants and stuff now so for the many they will be free as for people taking 17 positions that would be fine give him the credit for all the cards but only pay out first 2 birds , club rules allow you to adjust things every clock gets a read out of all birds clocked and a velocity and birds can be edited from the end result , you cant change anything by quiting and i suggest the majority that are quiting are doing it as are of that mind set , better to quit and accept defeat than stick in there and change either rules or your methods or birds

i have to agree that the rules on the use of ets are sketchy and realy need reviewing and made the same for every union , a trap is classed as part of a loft but to put the ets pad under the sputnik base would be classified as external but if you put it on top of the sputnik base on the inside or add a shelf and cover with some thin ply that would be acceptable as inside ( within the confines ), i dont have the ets at the moment but when i can afford it hopefuly before racing starts ill make my own trap up to accomodate it .

Very nice RM Ardens sapper

when moderating im impartial and following strict guide lines , as a fancier i have my own views

I suppose you would avocate having one clock at the post office again and recruiting 5 of your local school best runners to run your rubber up to the post office , however these young lads today would want more than a bob and the best runners would go to the fancier who paid the most , i suppose the guy at the top of the hill next to the post office will win out of turn as your runners will be impeaded by the steep hill , yup this is how it was in the past , clocks and thimbles are the past , clock shy birds are the past the ets is hear its been accepted and your compeditors are going to use it just like the various methods to fly your birds you either adapt move with the times or sit back and grumble that you can't win because you havent got an ets , now lets see getting beat by ets and loosing and having clock shy birds , or having it and winning with birds that arent clock shy , if you want get a few tumblers and you can rubber them and simulate taking there rubbers off to give you that buzz , i know one thing the buzz soon goes been able to take rubbers off and been on bottom of the race sheet thats a fact.

looks a nice hen

have heard of Benny sayers nar Billy Wilson he flys out at kibblesworth he lives at Pelton

awe so you wont be too far from Billy then ?

i go up to New Herrington once a fortnight

ill be there on Saturday im often up your way once a fortnight thats if your a mackem that aint moved lol

why not upload it to utube ?

hes had one double must leave enough in bottle fer you ;D ;D ;D ;D

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i've only removed double posts

hope you have a great time at Blackpool