hear wat ur say,n Chad, but we don,t get lot hen harriers up this way, so u know when u see something defferent, i say bulky,r to eye, but it had the appearence of being thicker feathered if that helps, but it is one of bop i,ve not handled close up yet so i could be mistaken from 30yards, but i am convinced it was hen harrier, as i say not many them up here it stuck out lik sore thumb, atb Ronnie