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Whichever Ted, I'm not into darkness as I think they are better long term kept natural, just need to work them well to hold moult back.

anything like this one Chris?

Your on Ted

Gieson 560m but have the option of NFC and BICC of course

trying to build a team for the nationals but finding it difficult to get birds to fly into this area, got good sprinters.

peckedhen

Hope they do well for you mate.

I'll have to try a pair of your Whites to see if they'll compete with Sues!

ha ha, you mean whites or invisibles?

depends what you've got

there is nothing in the rules to stop youngbirds being sent witht the oldbirds but would you want to put a 12 wk y/bird in the basket with a dozen widowhood cocks? Youngbird sickness will happen at anytime, usualy when stressed so in my opinion this would not reduce it. Phil

ha ha, what you got to hide?

Often in MK as well! 8) 8)

Hows the flight coming on David?

The rings are early enough now to have any age racing as they do on the continent. If you started breeding in the autumn, the birds will still be moulting and need a rest not being continualy bred from. Phil

Northampton is where the other show loft is Ted, half the team here in Wales and the other half at Northampton.

how longs the que?

look good stuffed! :P

If you never get rid of any you must be over run with birds! Also, what would the ferrets eat if I didn't reduce numbers? Phil

Also sometimes refered to as German Shield Owls

Old German owl, as is this:-

Spot on Kia! Nobody needs to charge a newcomer anything for a quality start. If somebody start with rubbish as pets and gains interest wanting then to have a go at shows etc, how dissapointed will they be then when they are told by a judge that there pride and joy's are only fit for one purpose? Just for you Tomo

get her on-line and read some (selected stories ) on the forum, maybe also let her look at some pics and have a hand in selecting what you start with along with how the loft will look, where it will go in the garden etc etc. Phil

chickadee, I agree with you they are no good for show birds, not only because the sweat but they are to short for many breeds and the tails get damaged, but they are ideal for just moving birds around as they are light and easy to carry. Phil

i'll post pics oy the yearlings when they've moulted just to keep you drooling! I haven't been up to Northampton yet to see this years youngbirds over there. Phil