i can understand completely what your saying, and can agree with most of the posts ,to a certain extent ,,,but is it the race point or is it the birds , i think most feds in scot have had race points right along the south coast , christchirch , wareham , bournmouth, dorchester etc etc etc, in my old club , all blamed the racepoints, never the birds or managements ,,one instance 3 fanciers leading in ob ave reaching last inland race approx 365 miles ,,,,each year the other two never were near it or never timed , these birds were mostly yearlings trained in end of march , cold east winds, went to every training stint,every race, they could get,=,yearlings done,,, my yearlings had 2 tosses sent to the 4th race in brilliant sunshine in may,their 6th race [no tossing] result 11 birds out of 18 in fed prize list, winning a record amount of prize and pool money,=,,fresh birds