my 1st post. John, can you explain why you think that its harder to get pigeons to fly 550ml/600ml into lanarkshire and the west of Scotland, than anywhere else in Scotland? I cant understand why it should be any different than anywhere else, I think 550ml/600ml is hard no matter were you stay. It would be good to see your reasons why. nothing 2 do with east and west john. read the post above. and yes i do think your a fly man. your always trying 2 say it so hard in the west. and taking credit off the rest of scotland. with your post.s. when you stated 16 pigeon.s over 600ml. your were taking bits out 2 suit you. .. it should be about the winner and winners of all the sections. get them right and they will win anywhere with a wee bit luck, and its old birds not y/b/nat. Thanks David