Ive bought alot of pigeons over the years and paid plenty for them. I ve helped almost everybody out in my area with ybs etc.Ill do this the first year, but some expect ybs and help every year.Thats ok , if it is kids wanting help but not grown up folk taking the pis/.Ive donated 100s of ybs to all sorts of sales and my opinion is this- the more you do for folk, the more they want and the less you are appreciated. People want everything for nothing. They want you to work your *expletive removed* off getting the best birds possible and expect you to give all the offspring away for nothing. If I am after a particular bird, then I will pay as much as I can afford for it . Why should I then be made feel bad when selling ybs from these top pigeons. There are too many begging bast.... in this sport, that can afford to put there hand in their pocket.