just ask me

could be right seems to make sence if u think about it ;D

righht nor mosting here any more going no where only around

i allways leave them choose there box what ever one they want as if u have a happy pigeon ure half way there

i think it has been proved with most of us expect pigeonscout who's 100% sure its against the rules what i tried to do was move the thread onto the next step where there seems to be a whole lot of difference of peoples opinions what for the life of me i can understand is why what could happen in some parts of country it would seem that this can happen and others it cant why cant we race under the one set of rules and we all adhere to them not these stupid rules that clubs make up too suit them selves rpra needs to give proper leadership and im sure fanicers would follow weather they agree or disagree if we could see pigeon racing going to in certain direction but all the fancier gets is crap and answers like this even if they had of said this is something new to us and there will be to vote by our members at the next agm no they passed it on the line to most of us that don't have any legal experice it would seem there view on it is f k it leave them deal with it i know pigeonscout and a few others have agreed that its against the rules maybe so but there are fanicers around doing this my thing about this is not the people that are doing this as it just reminds me of when people started racing widow hood and tore the crap out of natural flyers in most cases and people shouted for clubs for natural fanicers and widowhood fanicers im not agreeing or disagreeing with double ring birds to be honest i couldn't care less (just my opioion) what the fanicers need id leadership on issues like this a straight answer is that too much to ask for whether that be a yes u can or no u cant or we are not sure we will have to put too the members for a vote or what ever producers have to be taken so fanicers know where they stand i ask is this too much to ask for a straight answer :-/ sorry about the rant

ivermection has no harmfull effects to hawks it helps them as ive seen hawk men use it on small baby chickens and feed them too the hawks to worm them it actually how hawk men worm there birds ive seen it with my own eyes

fair enough but what about nationals could u have the situation where flyers are flying under rules where they cant double ring and and fanicers that can

imagine this countless hits too the thread a great number of replies some people think this is a form of cheating so we can count this as a very serious thread think we all agree on that much (i hope ) and we cant get an answer to the question from the rpra even if they had of said this is something we will or are looking into and will come up at the next agm or something to this effect no noting like this basically what they have done is passed the crap down the line to us members that will have too see this problem probally this year what would happen if a member turns up at marking station and club refuses to mark his birds lets say it a major race big money involved and he brings the club for not marking his birds either through the the law of the land i.e courts or through the rpra could he then sue the marking station for losses of moneys that occurred during the race or will he go after the rpra i would imagine if he goes after the rpra they will say its the marking station that is liable as we have seen here already they do want to pass the buck this could happen couldn't it :-/

theres loads that u can do it dont need to be a big organised thing everyone just do there own bit thers loads of threads here too view :-/ simple as

seems reasonalbe but these peple are not and whos to say how much the pigeon cost sure we would all have direct jannsens ;D

i totally agree a total waste of time and money a gimmick come to mind its up too us all to sort out our own problems there enough of us

recent thread here crows thread i know there is something on that to help u

well with a east wind there are a lot of luck involved also with yearlings what nearlly as bad from a short race is the wind behind them as they are 100 mile or more past there loft before they know where they are and then have to fly back in into wind

well its like this white night u can only help those that want to be helped

a good dose of calcuim for a few days will do no harm think this will help i find tablet the best and easiest to use

right we still don't really know that just my opinion but a bigger question has come of this i feel the rpra could not give a definitive answer what a load of crap does this mean that the rules will change from area to area or am i reading this right why do these people get paid if they cant answer a question like this

like to see your clock lol

best point made so far ive worked hard all winter every sunday all aftrnoon

lol

http://www.the-piedpiper.co.uk/th15(g).htm hi this might help also can be usefull on other birds too very effictiive alpha chloralose bit

i think these are for when they are sitting as far asi know havent seen them in action yet

well if there a east wind mate with yealings leave them at home but id start 2 weeks before 5 6 tosses as they should be fit flying around the loft

depends what distance your first race but what i would say is 5 6 tosses enough its loads i often leave it till too 2 weeks before the first race the weather is warmer

great now the mrs wants one

if not the above seperate and give a bit of wheat germ oil on the corn

well done be nice to get a answer