WELL THAT IS THEM STARTED FOR ANOTHER YEAR I TOOK A ROLL CALL AS I PUT THEM IN THE BASKET AND THEN IT WAS OFF TO CARNWATH (APPROX 16-17MLS) AND I TOSSED THEM AT 10.55 AND I WAITED AND I WAITED AND I WAITED :unsure: EVENTUALLY HAD TO LEAVE AT 12.40 TO GET SHIFTED FOR WORK AND MY MATE PHONED ME AT 12.45 TO SAY THAT APPROX 30 Y/B'S HAD JUST LANDED ON MY LOFT PANIC OVER TMOST OF THEM WERE HOME STILL HAD 4 OR 5 TO COME WHEN I LEFT FOR WORK AT HALF 1 BUT HOPEFULLY SOME OF THEM WILL BE THERE IN THE MORNING TOO DARK AND WET TO CHECK THEM TONIGHT