If it was only the odd bird we lost around the loft m8 I think people will accept it, however lads are being butchered daily by these predators, I think if you were being hammered daily m8 you wouldn't be so understanding, my 6 year old autistic boy comes and messes aound the loft with me while his mom has an hard earned rest in the house, I brought a dozen roland janseens (grizzles and pieds) for him last year to get a bit of interest, everytime he come up the loft one had been taken on exercise, very difficult to explain to a 6 year old autistic boy that his birds have been taken by these predators, I accept they are about but there numbers are to high :(