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1st time i have seen this thread,Now registered

DD How do you know this is the norm if they are invisible?

Do you have a shop and if so were are you located. do you also have a web page or catalogue.

Good luck racer hope you will get back into the pigeons again soon.

if any body has any slopping box perches for sale (at the right price) in the northwest area please let me know Cheers wings

i started in 2006 aged 40 and love it i've tried all sorts of sports but this is the best

put my name down please Thanks

Im verys uprised that the original thread has not shown more interest, as this noy just the garden birds we are talking about, have people forgot about are pigeons

I have Just recieved this e-mail from the RSPB ref the letter that i sent them earlier this week, WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK, i'am not convinced that the sparrow hawk has had a negative growth, i would think that the hawk population would increase yearly while there is plenty of food and only when it finds food hard to come by will it start to stabalise. (The question of this species of bird of prey is an emotive one given that they are often active in our gardens. Sparrowhawk populations have been recovering from persecution that took place in the early part of the 20th century. Over the last few years, the population has stabilised and there was even a negative growth (less than 1%) last year. The figures themselves are quite enlightening when it is considered that there are 26 species that are confirmed as prey for the hawks. The population of sparrowhawks is estimated at 64,000 whereas the prey species is 45,299,800. If each hawk took one prey item per day then the potential kill rate would be 23,360,000. This figure would be well within the extinction rate for many of the prey species. However, this is not the whole story and the hawks do not take prey at a consistent rate. Although they may take a bird on three consecutive days, it is likely that they will not feed on subsequent days. Flying weight is a key consideration to all birds and if they were to feed more often then they simply would not be able to take off. This is not the end of the maths because we also have to consider the potential reproductive capacity of the prey species. For the 26 species on the list, this comes out at 472,388,400 individual birds. Given those figures, it is impossible for the sparrowhawks to make any impression on the overall figures. It has to be remembered that the population figure relates to an annual total and this means there is a tremendous wastage of birds to other causes. In terms of your question, there is actually no reason to control sparrowhawks, as there is no evidence that they are affecting population levels of other birds. Regards Ian Peters - Wildlife Advisor The Lodge, SANDY. Bedfordshire. SG19 2DL Tel: 01767 693690

great reply homer. Lets all keep bombarding them with them.

Try This http://www.rspb.org.uk/contactus/

Hi Every I have just been on the RSPB web site on typed a letter to them, it goes as follows (Dear sir/madam i have just recieved a letter from you today ref joining the RSPB, in the top right hand corner of the letter you make ref to seeing a Sparrowhawk sitting on a fence, Unfourtunatly that sight to me is far to common, over the last 2 years i have seen the decline of all the birds that used to frequent my back garden such as the Bluetit, House Sparrow,Bullfinch,Greenfinch,Song Thrushes,Collared doves and many more due to the once so called endangered Hawk, WHEN YOU as a society wake up to the fact that the hawks in this country are decimating the small bird population and do something about it i will gladly join your society). Maybe if everbody from this sight were to post a e-mail to them they would sit up and listen and realise that the people of this country are VERY concerned about the small bird population and of course our pigeons.

Ok, I bought from down in derbyshire from a bloke who is a Judge for the the jack russells, Nice looking dog eh! I yours a dog or a *expletive removed*.

Good news

My Terriers

Thanks Eagleowl if she does actually complain to me or the council i will suggest this hopefully she will see reason. Many thanks.

that sounds reasuring hopefully if she does complain she will be the only one fingers crossed.

Why do some people only seem happy when they are spoiling something for somebody else?

yes i do get on with the other side they seem to be ok not bussom buddies with them though as i try to keep myself to myself . but were do i stand if she complain to the council?

I'am just worried about it as this woman can be pretty nasty person if she wants and as i was told it doesn't take much for her to be nasty.

Hi everyone just wonder is anybody could give me some advice as to were i stand. As i have said in previous Threads i have only been keeping pigeons for around 2 years, I have heard on the grape vine now that the neighbours are not happy with the birds they have not been out since early september, and the woman next door has commented to another neighbour that birds have been messing her washing, this cannot be my birds. does anybody know how i legally stand if she was to complain, I really don't want to have to get rid of them as they are the best thing i have ever done. has anybody been in the same situation and still got there birds.

Jimmy i have tried calling them to no avail, but never mind i will take peoples advice and give it a try.

Thanks for the advice roland i will wait some time to see if its ok, i'am not in the habit of just killing birds.

Had a look at the sight lots good birds. i will have to be a bit more ruthless with my selection in the future, It will take me a very long time to get to the standard that you have achieved. thanks again for the advice.

Spence i will see what they breed this year and then get rid.