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thanx 4 the replies guys its much appreciated debbie

hi, ive got a 6 year old hen that came in as a stray last year but ive now noticed a small growth on the lower part of her beak and was wondering wether it could be anything to do with pigeon pox or another infectious disease ? the growth is only about the size of a grain of wheat and the same colour as the birds wattles but being a novice i thought that i should ask for advice (better safe then sorry) the bird is ok in itself and is eating/flying out as normal is it just growth from the wattles or should i be worried ? debbie

well done simon for recovering your mates pigeon i for one would liked to have seen his face when u handed his winning pigeon back to him i dont spose he thought he would ever see that pigeon again debbie

i must admit i was suprised that someone video,d the attack and i thought twice about posting it on pb but did it as hawks affect all of us fanciers, the attack in crawley happened not even a mile from my loft so its worrying 4 me :-/ time to get the eagle owl cd back out sorry to hear of lennut tars goshawk attack today it makes me wonder how bad the bop problem is gonna get b4 (and if?) anything ever gets done about it? i cant imagine what fanciers must feel like when they are repeatedly hit by hawks on a regular basis it must be soul destroying :-/ anyway now that ive depressed you all i will sign off ;D take care and good luck debbie

hi again im sorry if anybody finds the hawk attack video a bit much but i just couldnt believe that this happened in a busy town centre among all the shoppers :-/a local newspaper wrote an article on the attack and apparently the pigeon was struggling for a while while the shoppers just looked on? i just cant believe that nobody stepped in to try save the pigeon? debbie

hi everyone, just thought i would show you a video of a hawk attack in my local town centre which happened last week. this was witnessed by a crown of shoppers who stood near and watched the hawk attack the pigeon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AipAkPbFfBY debbie

thanx roland,kev,jimmy,lennut tar and carlsberg for your replies/tips while im picking your brains can anybody explain why you shouldnt train in a east wind? i know im only a novice and there,s probably a good reason but im thinking that surely a wind from any direction can blow a pigeon off course? why is a east wind any different? do pigeons not get liberated on race days in east winds? i know these are probably stupid questions to all you old hands but i cant fathom this east wind thing? who,s gonna educate me? debbie

thanx 4 all the tips everyone can anybody recommend a good book that i can use for reference when im dealing with pigeon ailments/injuries ? thanx debbie :)

thanx 4 the warning roland its much appreciated debbie

keep the tips coming especially u old hands what do u treat for? what corn and supplements do u use? any training tips? debbie

i think your lofts are amazing karl and your birds look great too u should be proud to have achieved so much in such a short period of time i wish u luck for the future but i dont think u will need it debbie

sorry to hear of your 14 year old chequer dying mark but im sure he lived a good life with you, ive got very attached to my birds within the last 18 months or so since i started keeping pigeons so i know how they can grow on you debbie

nice neat lofts pat do the nearby pylons/cables cause u any problems? debbie

thanx 4 that tip jim knowledge is power as they say and as a novice i need all the help i can get debbie

thanks 4 the info paul re the tetracycline im still waiting 4 the avian vet to get back to me but i will try him again tomoro morning and hopefully get 2 see him a.m. sameday im thinking that maybe one of the the strays that have entered my loft this year have brought something in? hopefully the vet can sort it 4 me once and 4 all : il let u know how it go,s and thanks again debbie

hi everyone well i managed to get some amoxicillin and all my birds were treated with it for 5 days as recommended after treatment all the birds looked fine and i thought that the amoxicillin had worked its magic but ive now got a couple of birds going down again with the same symptoms (one eye partly closed,dirty wattles,not eating) ive left a message on an avian vets ansafone as im now stumped and obviously need some advice/meds from an expert i will be glad to see the back of this month as not only did my pigeons get sick but my old pc packed up and now my car is making strange noises ?? still i cant complain as im sure it could have been a lot worse thanks again for all the replies to my posting and also for the pm,s bye for now debbie

thanx all for your replies/pm,s i will make some calls and let u know how i get on? my birds have greatly improved after being treated with amoxicillin but i need to buy some more to finish the course, my worse affected birds had weeping eyes(one side only)dirty wattles,and were sneezing/croaking i only had some amoxicillin so i tried that and they have greatly improved so staying with amoxicllin seems the thing to do thanks again debbie

hi can anyone tell me where i can buy amoxicillin powder to add to my drinkers? debbie

ive had a droppings/swab test done on my pigeons and the result was a bacterial infection can anyone advise me on what would be the best thing to treat my birds with and where i can get it from? many thanks debbie :-/

ive rescued some ferals in the past and nursed them back to health as i hate to see any animal suffering i got started after a stray racer decided that my garden shed looked like home and things sort of developed from there but i wouldnt be without them now debbie

thanks for reply bruno and shadow, i was hoping that my test kit would turn up today but it didnt but then the post is busy this time of year with xmas isnt it :-/ hopefully it will be here tomoro debbie

pigeon health are sending me out a testing kit today so within the next couple of days i will know for sure what the problem is ive been given some 250mg amoxicillin capsules which according to some websites can be used to treat ornithosis if given in doses of 25-50mg per day for each pigeon im very tempted to try and break down two of the 250mg capsule into 50mg doses and treat my worse affected birds until i can get the results of my droppings/swab test done? what do u think? debbie :-/

thank u alf,bruno,dogeon,jimmy w (no i dont mind ) inv spirit,shadow and swilcox for replying to my post and advising me, im going for the droppings/throat swab test with pigeon health so hopefully i should soon know what the problem is with my pigeons before treating them thanks again guys u are all stars debbie

i had some problems last month (watery eyes/snuffles) with my pigeons but it cleared up or so i thought but now its back along with sneezing,grey wattles and a rattling sound? about ten of my pigeons are affected to various degrees but ive also noticed over the last week or so that some dont want to go out for excercise ? their symptoms seem to match ornithosis but rather then just treat for it i would be grateful if anyone can tell me how to have them tested for it just so i can be be sure that i am treating for the right thing? last month i treated my pigeons with chevicet -t for the watery eyes/snuffles which seemed to work up until now? any advice would be appreciated debbie :-/

im only a novice tony and havnt had my first race yet but to me what u are saying makes sense what do other fanciers think? debbie